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  • Seriously Sullentrop, what the hell were you thinking?

    Normally, I like to read his reports, but did he really have to re-visit a black-eye day in WSU baseball history? It's a decade old Sullentrop, while you are at it, why don't you just go ahead and start writing about recruiting violations in the 80's too.

    Nothing like reminding the haters out there of what happened so they can come out of the woodwork and start bashing WSU baseball again.

  • #2
    I agree.

    That is something that I can see being mentioned in the Evansville Courier, not The Wichita Eagle.

    Way ta kick a team when they're down..
    Deuces Valley.
    ... No really, deuces.
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    • #3
      This event was one of the very few black mark on this program that shouldn't be forgotten regardless of the pain. There were a lot of lesson to be learned from that night like Kemnitz defending the indefensible.

      In retrospective, "the pitch" was the dividing line between where WSU program went from a CWS capable team to a good regional team.

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      • #4
        It's the 10-year anniversary of a major local sports incident that heavily impacted two student athletes' lives.

        That was in the Eagle's tickler file 20 minutes after the pitch was thrown.

        Absolutely appropriate, IMO.
        “The rebellion on the populist right against the results of the 2020 election was partly a cynical, knowing effort by political operators and their hype men in the media to steal an election or at least get rich trying. But it was also the tragic consequence of the informational malnourishment so badly afflicting the nation. ... Americans gorge themselves daily on empty informational calories, indulging their sugar fixes of self-affirming half-truths and even outright lies.'

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        • #5
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          It's the 10-year anniversary of a major local sports incident that heavily impacted two student athletes' lives.

          That was in the Eagle's tickler file 20 minutes after the pitch was thrown.

          Absolutely appropriate, IMO.


          +1

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          • #6
            Agree

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            • #7
              You can't forget that it happened. It was major to the area, the MVC, and the entire sports world for a while.

              And SB, I agree. That throw pretty much turned this program around. And it wasn't for the better.

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              • #8
                No doubt about it, a very good article and a good read. How anybody in the world could defend Christensen for that incident is beyond me. I have to say that incident made me lose some respect for Kemnitz for trying to defend his pitcher in what was clearly a classless act. That did set WSU baseball into a downward spiral from which it still hasn't, and may never fully recover. Glad to see that Mr. Molina ended up coming out of the incident pretty well, even though it did affect his career. Should we say it is sweet justice that Mr. Christensen is no longer playing baseball?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by shockerfanmas
                  No doubt about it, a very good article and a good read. How anybody in the world could defend Christensen for that incident is beyond me. I have to say that incident made me lose some respect for Kemnitz for trying to defend his pitcher in what was clearly a classless act. That did set WSU baseball into a downward spiral from which it still hasn't, and may never fully recover. Glad to see that Mr. Molina ended up coming out of the incident pretty well, even though it did affect his career. Should we say it is sweet justice that Mr. Christensen is no longer playing baseball?
                  It was a stupid spit second decision. I'm sure once the ball left his hand he probably thought "what did I do". I can't imagine he was trying to hit him. It was an accident by a young, aggressive pitcher. There can be no justice to what happened - for either player. It was a lose-lose situation for both.
                  From what I've read, both seem like very decent individuals, and Christensen seems truly apologetic for the incident.

                  I think the Shocker mystique took a hit though. It does seem the players became less aggressive and lost a lot of swagger. The demeanor of the players which is a reflection of the coaches, defintely became a bit more affable and a bit more soft. I feel badly for both players. What a shame.

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                  • #10
                    We have to acknowledge that happened. It's going to be around the program at least as long as the current coachiong staff is with the program.

                    It's a black eye on the program, but just because we don't want to be reminded of it doesn't mean it will go away or be forgotten.

                    I agree with the posters who have speculated that moment was a turning point for WSU baseball. IMHO that incident had a negative impact on recruiting and is still a factor in the results WSU is producing on the field today.

                    We may not want to admit it, but that incident turned WSU into the Oakland Raiders of college baseball. WSU is the dirty team with the dirty players. It's going to take more than 10 years for that to go away.
                    The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
                    We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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                    • #11
                      An event the won't be forgotten and should not be forgotten. Perhaps the second most memorable negative event in WSU History to the football team plane crash.

                      I agree with whoever said this was a lose-lose situation. No winners anyhwere.

                      No doubt this event had a definite negative impact on our program, although there are many other factors that have had an impact also over the last 10 years, but the Christensen/Molina incident really put a pall over the program for several years.

                      While we should not forget the incident, we do need to do what is required to overcome it. Combined with other changes in the Sport in the last decade that is tough, but not impossible.

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                      • #12
                        And articles such as this is one reason why this terrible incident will not just go away. Why rekindle such a tragic event? Did Sullentrop feel the need to remind us that BC's career was never the same, and Molina's ended? Didn't we already know this 5 years ago? 6, 7 years ago?

                        So, at the 15th and 20th anniversary of this incident, Sullentrop is going to feel the need to remind us yet again, that BC and Molina are out of baseball and living their lives?

                        A tragic event yes? Do I condone what happened, no. Is this on the level of Pearl Harbor where we should never forget? That answers
                        that.

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                        • #13
                          Molina remembers it. I guess that means he's lucky.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by enginerd
                            Molina remembers it. I guess that means he's lucky.
                            Kitten State fans posting randomly on WSU message boards.

                            Guess they think it's important.
                            Deuces Valley.
                            ... No really, deuces.
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                            • #15
                              I agree with KC Shox on this one.

                              Even if you think it is appropriate to mark the 10th Anniversary of this event, it should not have been a big story on the front page of the Sports section. It should have been a short story in the game notes or as part of Paul's Sunday WSU column.

                              Some of our game stories don't even make the front of the sports page. I think the Eagle made too big a deal out of this event.

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