Dennis and Kemnitz take on the super regionals

[William]

I listen to sports daily alot and in a show shortly after the regionals Shane Dennis said he believed that Florida St. had the shockers pitch signals, no doubt about it, he said.

Todays show featured Kemnitz who believes that the plate umpires throughout the country had a tight zone in the supers, and that the zone attributed to the football like scores.

Any thoughts on these two theories?

[Shirley Schmidt]

Sounds like sour grapes.

Hit the ball and score more runs is the answer.

[billybud]

Yep...FSU probably had all the pitch signals of all the teams they played...that's the only way the stats make any sense.

That has to be why FSU is NCAA ranked end of season ..

#1 in batting average

#1 in Hits

#1 in Runs

#1 on Base on Balls

#3 in Slugging Percentage

Or, it could just be that FSU was a better hitting team than the Shockers were used to playing. It could just be that FSU had batters who were patient at the plate and who can hit the ball even if it was off the plate.

And, it could be that the WSU pitchers were a little bit off their usual game...the curves don't bite as much in the hot air of Florida, some have said.

The umps did have a tighter strike zone (IMHO) than some I've seen in regular season.

[SubGod22]

There's no doubt that the strike zone was tighter in the Super than it was during the season. That messed with out pitchers heads and FSU took advantage.

[CharlieHog]

When we played Alabama this year our coaches said afterwards that they stole our signs. I totally blame our own coaches for this. As long as they aren't using tv cameras, if a team can steal your signs, it's your own fault.

[vbird53]

Yep...FSU probably had all the pitch signals of all the teams they played...that's the only way the stats make any sense.

That has to be why FSU is NCAA ranked end of season ..

#1 in batting average

#1 in Hits

#1 in Runs

#1 on Base on Balls

#3 in Slugging Percentage

Or, it could just be that FSU was a better hitting team than the Shockers were used to playing. It could just be that FSU had batters who were patient at the plate and who can hit the ball even if it was off the plate.

And, it could be that the WSU pitchers were a little bit off their usual game...the curves don't bite as much in the hot air of Florida, some have said.

The umps did have a tighter strike zone (IMHO) than some I've seen in regular season.

With stats like that, the Seminoles shoulda won the World Series. What happened?

[shockandawe08]

Somebody probably stole their signs.

[DUShock]

"Here's your sign" :)

[billybud]

What happened?

The Noles, in their last game at Rosenblatt, playing one of the best teams in the country, put on an offensive show of sorts...

FSU pummelled Miami pitching for 18 hits, put 23 men on the base...but stranded a CWS record of 17, and lost by two runs.

Having 18 hits against Miami was great, putting 23 men on base was outstanding...How many times do you put that many on base and lose 7-5? But, FSU, even while loading up the base paths, failed to move the guys home..runner thrown out at home, at third, double plays..they add up. And lack of home run balls. One HR with those guys on base would have made the difference.

Although FSU outhit Miami 18 hits to 11...Miami's hits were more productive. No FSU guy had more than one RBI..while three Canes had 2 RBI's...their hits with guys on base were more productive.

It still was a close game...FSU was down by two, the tieing run was on the bases and the best hitter in baseball, representing the winning run, was at the plate. Posey had already had four hits in the game...Miami wisely gave him the intentional walk and the next guy up made an out and that was that.

That is what happened.

[William]

Watching the games on tv, I didn't find the strike zones to be measurably different than any other game I've ever watched.

So why does kemnitz bring this up, he said it had been bothering him since the tourney, really? the strike zone that wasn't noticeably different than any other strike zone bothered you for a month? No what really bothers you about this Brent? And what are you trying to convince us of?

[Ta town]

Watching the games on tv, I didn't find the strike zones to be measurably different than any other game I've ever watched.

So why does kemnitz bring this up, he said it had been bothering him since the tourney, really? the strike zone that wasn't noticeably different than any other strike zone bothered you for a month? No what really bothers you about this Brent? And what are you trying to convince us of?

did somebody overlook you or your son? why are you so bitter and what are you trying to convince us of?

[billybud]

I think that in several of the post season match ups, including those at Rosenblatt, the umps didn't give the pitcher the ball that was a couple inches outside.

I have watched games called where the pitch just off of the plate was given to the pitcher.

As long as the zone stays consistant throughout the game, it's OK...

The WSU pitchers were having problems with location in the last two games..and FSU players are coached to be patient, they led nation in walks this year.

The FSU pitcher was quoted saying that he had good location that day and when he saw that Shockers were swinging at "outside" pitches, he stopped putting them over the plate. I don't know if that is true, but that was his statement.

[William]

Watching the games on tv, I didn't find the strike zones to be measurably different than any other game I've ever watched.

So why does kemnitz bring this up, he said it had been bothering him since the tourney, really? the strike zone that wasn't noticeably different than any other strike zone bothered you for a month? No what really bothers you about this Brent? And what are you trying to convince us of?

did somebody overlook you or your son? why are you so bitter and what are you trying to convince us of?

answer #1-No answer#2- I am not on the radio filling peoples heads with hogwash

[billybud]

Some quotes..

Ryan Strauss after holding WSU...

"We knew they liked to swing early in the count," Strauss said. "We wanted to give them pitches that we wanted them to swing at, rather than pitches they wanted to swing at. Getting ahead of them was the main goal."

[McShocker]

If the zone for the supers was smaller than normal, the "normal" zone is ridiculously large. You can't expect 3-4 inches on each corner. It sure looked on TV like the umps were giving 1-2 inches off the plate most of the time. You would think that would be enough if your pitcher has his good stuff and is hitting his spots.