Remaining season outlook

[SB Shock]

Actually he is correct in saying that WSU is 1/2 game behind Missouri State in the standings. Missouri State is 13-5 which is 2 games ahead of WSU in the win column and 1 loss behind WSU in the loss column, thus they technically have a 1/2 game lead over both UNI and WSU. WSU and UNI are ahead if you use winning percentage, but not if you use total wins and losses.

http://www.ncaa-baseball.com/confere...ndings_mvc.htm

FWIW, the MVC final standings are figured by winning pct.

What is also amazing - SWMO, UNI and have the exact same records against common opponents in MVC. There is no margin for any team...

[KC Shox]

Also, I understand people being concerned about the way we are playing, but keep in mind we are still a top 10 team. IF we can just start playing smart and only lose one game a week from here on in we should be in a VERY strong spot to host a Regional. IF!

I have never seen so many people questioning a top 10 team!!! I don't actually feel we deserve the ranking, but SB Shock said it best about it being harder to move into the top 10 than move out of it. We are seeing that now. If we could just get our injuries under control and pull our heads out, we still control our own destiny. We could go .500 in mid-week play and still make a strong case to host!!!

IF we go .500 in the mid-week we will not host. WSU will have to earn the committee's decision to grant us a host site. You are placing too much importance on how high we are ranked. Is it important, sure, is our RPI more important - yes.

The committee is going to look at WSU's body of work, look how well we performed against the RPI top 50 & 100, how well we did against the Top 25, how well we played toward the end of the season and how well we did in our conference. All of these factors are more important on determing how deserving WSU is for a host site.

The way I figure it, WSU will have to go undeafeted in the mid-week, go undeafeted against Evansville and Bradley, and lose only once to Northern Iowa. At most, two losses, one to UNI and one to either ORU or ASU.

THEN, we need to win the MVC Tournament and come out of there with only one loss. This is asking A LOT from this team, and without Workman, a reliable closer, more bottom of the line-up production and better relief pitching, it is asking too much.

I'm banking that we will head to the OK State regional where we will face Arkansas or ORU.

[Hill Sitter]

Did anyone hear Shane Dennis's analysis tonight on what we need to do to host ? I caught some not all. He had clearly done his homework. Basically he compared last year at this time and this year in terms of where we are in overall record, RPI and other variables. Basically its almost a dead heat in those factors between the two campaigns so far thru April 28. I'm not sure because I didn't hear the whole segment, but I think I heard him say that from this point on last year we went something like 13-8 and that 8 included some really bad losses......I think the flaw in the logic with some here that are giving up on hosting -barring a long winning streak or near perfection- is they act like our credentials and season play out in some sort of vacuum and every other possible regional host is going to go 20-0.

There is so much left to happen so no one really knows and projections are pretty darn hard.

[shockfan89]

KC - I don't really disagree with you as a whole, and I think unless we start playing better it really won't matter, but is RPI really more important than ranking? I thought in the past we have always heard that RPI is one piece of the body of work, but I don't think it is more important than ranking. What I am saying is it is possible for us to go .500 in mid-week games and probably stay ranked right around 10th.

Given that there are 16 Regional sites, I would be extremely surprised if we are a top 10 team and don't host, especially given WSU's record of how well Regionals are attended.

With that being said, I feel we are ranked too high and I complain about teams like Texas when they are ranked in the top 10 and don't ever fall out regardless of bad losses and 3-2 weeks so I should apply the same scrutiny to WSU. Oh well, I guess we take it and hope for the best...

[KC Shox]

KC - I don't really disagree with you as a whole, and I think unless we start playing better it really won't matter, but is RPI really more important than ranking? I thought in the past we have always heard that RPI is one piece of the body of work, but I don't think it is more important than ranking. What I am saying is it is possible for us to go .500 in mid-week games and probably stay ranked right around 10th.

Given that there are 16 Regional sites, I would be extremely surprised if we are a top 10 team and don't host, especially given WSU's record of how well Regionals are attended.

With that being said, I feel we are ranked too high and I complain about teams like Texas when they are ranked in the top 10 and don't ever fall out regardless of bad losses and 3-2 weeks so I should apply the same scrutiny to WSU. Oh well, I guess we take it and hope for the best...

Do we have the same avatar girlfriend?

[ShockerFever]

IF we can just start playing smart and only lose one game a week from here on in we should be in a VERY strong spot to host a Regional.

It seems like I've been seeing this phrase floating around here for the past 2 or 3 weeks now. We keep blowing our chances. I have very little faith that we'll be able to go down the remaining stretch with only 1 or 2 losses, especially like many have said, given our horrible relief pitching, inconsistent hitting, and seemingly more frequent errors.

I do agree that WSU does have an advantage in the attendance department and $$ department in getting a host. We'll see how it all plays out.

[SB Shock]

Here is why WSU needs to host a regional:

Home: 134-37 78%
Away: 76-50 60%

Take away 2007 (20-8 )

Away Record become for least 56-42 57%

[shockfan89]

KC - I don't really disagree with you as a whole, and I think unless we start playing better it really won't matter, but is RPI really more important than ranking? I thought in the past we have always heard that RPI is one piece of the body of work, but I don't think it is more important than ranking. What I am saying is it is possible for us to go .500 in mid-week games and probably stay ranked right around 10th.

Given that there are 16 Regional sites, I would be extremely surprised if we are a top 10 team and don't host, especially given WSU's record of how well Regionals are attended.

With that being said, I feel we are ranked too high and I complain about teams like Texas when they are ranked in the top 10 and don't ever fall out regardless of bad losses and 3-2 weeks so I should apply the same scrutiny to WSU. Oh well, I guess we take it and hope for the best...

Do we have the same avatar girlfriend?

I like yours better! :)

[CharlieHog]

KC - I don't really disagree with you as a whole, and I think unless we start playing better it really won't matter, but is RPI really more important than ranking? I thought in the past we have always heard that RPI is one piece of the body of work, but I don't think it is more important than ranking. What I am saying is it is possible for us to go .500 in mid-week games and probably stay ranked right around 10th.

Given that there are 16 Regional sites, I would be extremely surprised if we are a top 10 team and don't host, especially given WSU's record of how well Regionals are attended.

With that being said, I feel we are ranked too high and I complain about teams like Texas when they are ranked in the top 10 and don't ever fall out regardless of bad losses and 3-2 weeks so I should apply the same scrutiny to WSU. Oh well, I guess we take it and hope for the best...

RPI is much more important than ranking.

[KC Shox]

Well! We lost tonight - leave it up to the Shox to go ahead and take care of that for me right off the bat. Now we need to go 4-1 this week and undefeated the rest of the way to get a Regional.

[1972Shocker]

Well! We lost tonight - leave it up to the Shox to go ahead and take care of that for me right off the bat. Now we need to go 4-1 this week and undefeated the rest of the way to get a Regional.

I think we can afford one more loss somewhere along the line and still get a regional, but that's about it.

Not sure that can happen unless we can get the offense righted and at least square up on more than a half dozen balls during a game.

Time for Gene and JT to earn those paychecks.

[ShockerFever]

Now we need to go 4-1 this week and undefeated the rest of the way to get a Regional.

And we know that ain't gonna happen.

Sucks too because Mizzou seems to be pissing away their chances too.

Leave it up to us to choke away down the stretch and never ever take advantage of some of the benefits that have been going around us.

Kinda puts a damper on the month of June for me now.. :cry: Too bad.

[Cdizzle]

Omaha is happening.

[ShockerFever]

Omaha is happening.

Yes it is..






..without us though.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv23pqH9iG0

Intersting video to watch. Those whom it apply to will know it!