Woman says WSU coach stalked her

[shockball]

Her attorney played baseball at Wichita State. Pre Gene era.

Is this serious or a joke? Not that it matters since an attorney represents her/his clients (within limits); someone who played for WSU might decide not to take the case, however.

Not a joke. Also Bishop Carroll class of '68.

I'm a little disappointed. A letter to Gene on the attorney's stationary could have had as much effect as the restraining order. I can't imagine Gene ignoring it. If the letter didn't work then get the restraing order.

[shockfan89]

There will be several people looking/feeling stupid when this all plays out. I don't think Gene will be one of them. Unfortunately it appears to me the damage has already been done.

TRO's are a very curious thing. It has a really negative public image but they appear to be very simple to get and they are a civil order with no criminal ramifications unless you ignore them. Very strange. I even think I heard a lawyer on TV say they are awarded so often and so easily because there is no harm in awarding them. I think if Gene turns out to be innocent of this he may disagree with that statement...

[RoyalShock]

I heard a lawyer on TV say they are awarded so often and so easily because there is no harm in awarding them.

The subject of a restraining order suffers a loss of personal freedoms. He or she is limited on where and when he/she can go. See Aargh's example earlier in this topic. So I would completely disagree with that lawyer on TV.

[Snapshot9]

One thing that didn't seem right to me, was that she stated that a 3rd party was used to contact her at her employment. Gene does not strike me as the type of guy to do that at all.

She just might be a nutcase with a Phd.

[boyshocker]

At first I was really on Gene, but now I wonder if this is the same gal who 'was not' with him during the skiing incident. I wonder if this could be the ugly end to a long relationship.

[shockfan89]

At first I was really on Gene, but now I wonder if this is the same gal who 'was not' with him during the skiing incident. I wonder if this could be the ugly end to a long relationship.

No!

[SpanglerFan316]

She just might be a nutcase with a Phd.

Are these ("a nutcase with a Phd") common? If so, I seem to miss them at Dillons, etc. Do they wear signs? "I'm a nutcase with a Phd" t-shirts? Is this her: http://www.textron.com/newsroom/feat...10_27_2006.jsp?

[Snapshot9]

And that is relevant how? Seems to me, we had an Astronaut that was a nutcase, did we not?

[SpanglerFan316]

And that is relevant how? Seems to me, we had an Astronaut that was a nutcase, did we not?

I don't know if it is relevant; you brought up the subject of "nutcase(s) with a Phd", not me. (Maybe they are like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoXgRtDysLY?)

[1972Shocker]

The May 1 hearing on the harrassment allegations against GS has been postponed until a later date.

http://www.kansas.com/250/story/388806.html

Might indicate that a private agreement and settlement between the parties involved may be in the works.

[rrshock]

Might indicate that a private agreement and settlement between the parties involved may be in the works.

Ding, Ding, Ding. We have a winner! You hit that one right on the head. I don't know for sure, but would guess that when this happens, about half the time something is done away from court.

[KC Shox]

IMO, this allegation of stalking will not hold water. Kansas' definition of stalking is; "Stalking is an intentional, malicious and repeated following or harassment of another person and making a credible threat with the intent to place such person in reasonable fear for such person's safety."

Does anyone here believe for one minute that strictly based on the allegation of stalking and it's defined legal definition that Gene's INTENT is to harm or make that woman to believe she was in danger of being harmed? Gimme a break. Had he made threats via the telephone or correspondence, this lady would have saved the messages on her cell phone or answering machine and notified the Police. Presented with evidence of voice recordings of verbal threats being made by Gene, they would have arrested him lickity split.

No arrests have been made. I do think something weird is going on between these two, and right now it's a he said she said arguement. The worst case scenario that I see, strictly based on the information available through the news, is that Gene would be convicted of a spin-off law to stalking called Harassment by Telephone. This is a class A non-person misdemeanor, while Stalking is a Class 10 Felony.

Harassment by Telephone better fits the information reported in the news and I feel the media has done a disservice to Gene by using that taboo word of Stalking in its papers. It's what makes for good headlines to sell newspapers. This incident is probably being inflated by the media and for less severe actions than what is being reported and what conclusions many are drawing upon.

Based on my worst case scenario, if Gene was found guilty of Harassment by Telephone, nothing would happen. Gene has no criminal record, is a high profile positive citizen of the city, is employed and has no prior history with this woman in terms of past Police involvement. He would get diversion and would serve no jail time or pay a fine.

I anticipate nothing will ever come to fruition on this matter.

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

Might indicate that a private agreement and settlement between the parties involved may be in the works.

Ding, Ding, Ding. We have a winner! You hit that one right on the head. I don't know for sure, but would guess that when this happens, about half the time something is done away from court.

Or might be that the judicial system is to caught up with other "thing" to try the matter on the given date. Contiunances happen all the time for one reason or another.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Settled out of court:

http://www.kansas.com/250/story/484002.html

[shockandawe08]

I know these things are often settled to avoid dragging a person's reputation, as well as their family, further through the mud and it is not necessarily an admission of guilt, but...sadly, this creates more questions than answers. I truly hope this is over and we can move forward, yet never forget that there is almost always more than one "victim" - in this case, a family torn apart. Too sad.