Fire Todd Butler? Yes? No?

[shocker3]

A few months ago I was at a conference attended by a lot of grad students. Everybody wore a nametag with their school so when a young woman from Wichita State came to my booth I mentioned that I'd been to Wichita years ago to watch baseball. She said, "that's weird, we aren't even a baseball school."

I remember when you came to Wichita to watch your Razorbacks play in a regional. Shocker baseball was a lot of fun back then. Not so much now.

[CharlieHog]

I remember when you came to Wichita to watch your Razorbacks play in a regional. Shocker baseball was a lot of fun back then. Not so much now.

Hard to believe that was 15 years ago. In those days the only message boards where anybody talked college baseball were Shockernet, Tiger Rant, and Gene's Page.

[Veritas]

Unbelievable! I can smell the acrid posts all the way from the west coast. Most of you were warned of what could have happened when Gene was fired. You were short-sighted.
Until you admit you were wrong, the curse of Gene and karma of fADES will haunt the program. Man up girls. Purge yourself.
Reverse the curse! Take the sign off Storrow Drive!

[ShockTalk]

Unbelievable! I can smell the acrid posts all the way from the west coast. Most of you were warned of what could have happened when Gene was fired. You were short-sighted.
Until you admit you were wrong, the curse of Gene and karma of fADES will haunt the program. Man up girls. Purge yourself.
Reverse the curse! Take the sign off Storrow Drive!

Heeere.....Weeee......Gooooo......Again. :disgust:

[SB Shock]

Unbelievable! I can smell the acrid posts all the way from the west coast. Most of you were warned of what could have happened when Gene was fired. You were short-sighted.
Until you admit you were wrong, the curse of Gene and karma of fADES will haunt the program. Man up girls. Purge yourself.
Reverse the curse! Take the sign off Storrow Drive!

Gene should have stayed at OU. It was over when he said he couldn't win anymore at WSU.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

As i sat drinking beers with two fathers whose sons were drafted this year, I realize how dilusional some "WSKU" fans are when it comes to baseball recruiting.

Look around at the schools going to CWS and how long their coaches have been there.

CSF -- 5th Year (CSF asst from 1990-2007)
OSU -- 22 years
FSU -- 27 years
LSU -- 10 years
A&M -- 12 years
LOU -- 10 years
TCU -- 14 years
UF -- 10 years

There is a pattern here all the "fact" people will see. Hopefully the others will realize the commitment to Coach Stephenson was definitely warranted, but the lack of a transition plan, plus the stubborness to realize he needed one was what led to this change.

I get sick of hearing about how things would be different if Gene were still here. His fate was sealed the first time he put on that OU uniform.

Learned a lot more about the current state of College Baseball since being in Louisiana. The biggest thing I have learned is Wichita State Baseball is Nebraska football.

Still well respected, and waiting....

[shocker3]

Hard to believe that was 15 years ago. In those days the only message boards where anybody talked college baseball were Shockernet, Tiger Rant, and Gene's Page.

It is hard to believe that was 15 years ago. Time passes very fast. I can only hope that someday Shocker baseball will once again be that fun again. Some of my best memories outside of Omaha, are the 2007 super regional in Wichita (even though we lost to UCI, the stadium was full and electric), Clint McKeever's home run at OSU that sent us to the super regionals at Florida State in 2008 and the Shockers winning the regional in Stillwater in 1988 to go to Omaha (OSU was the #1 ranked team in the USA at the time).

[DUShock]

Unbelievable! I can smell the acrid posts all the way from the west coast. Most of you were warned of what could have happened when Gene was fired. You were short-sighted.
Until you admit you were wrong, the curse of Gene and karma of fADES will haunt the program. Man up girls. Purge yourself.
Reverse the curse! Take the sign off Storrow Drive!

[Kung Wu]

Unbelievable! I can smell the acrid posts all the way from the west coast. Most of you were warned of what could have happened when Gene was fired. You were short-sighted.
Until you admit you were wrong, the curse of Gene and karma of fADES will haunt the program. Man up girls. Purge yourself.
Reverse the curse! Take the sign off Storrow Drive!

Hahaha, at least you have a sense of humor!

[Veritas]

Here are some nice tidbits for some of you girls to digest as you ponder "what the hell was I thinking?"

"Reverse the Curse"

http://blogs.twincities.com/twins/2013/06/05/the-full-pelfrey/

https://twitter.com/GoShockers/status/858119088052350976

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Great article from Twin Cities.

Two things stand out to me about that article. I am 100% confident that had Coach Stephenson agreed to bring on a CIW, he could have pretty much selected his own successor. Also, how does a Wichita kid who grew up a Shicker fan only meet Coach Stephenson for the first time in his office? Especially a kid as good as he was. It shows that the staff got to the point they thought the players would just come to them. And that worked for a while after they stopped recruiting hard. But as the program declined, he was bound and determined that this was "his show" and succeed or fail, he was doing it his way. That is why it was time for a change.

[WuShock16]

I don't care what Pelfrey thinks because he's a KU basketball fan. For the 78-65 game, he told people that he might have pitched at WSU but he's been a KU basketball fan longer. He might be very loyal to Gene but he's not a true Wichita State guy.

Oh, and yes, Gene did a bunch of fundraising, but that indoor facility was not all his doing. There were development people in the athletics department who fundraised for that. Gene might have still been involved, but he wasn't the Lone Ranger on that one.

[WuShock16]

http://m.startribune.com/pelfrey-s-biggest-worry-a-kansas-hoops-showdown/296800531/

[Veritas]

Great article from Twin Cities.

Two things stand out to me about that article. I am 100% confident that had Coach Stephenson agreed to bring on a CIW, he could have pretty much selected his own successor. Also, how does a Wichita kid who grew up a Shicker fan only meet Coach Stephenson for the first time in his office? Especially a kid as good as he was. It shows that the staff got to the point they thought the players would just come to them. And that worked for a while after they stopped recruiting hard. But as the program declined, he was bound and determined that this was "his show" and succeed or fail, he was doing it his way. That is why it was time for a change.

And..... you got the change you wanted. Is the program now better or worse?
fADES ( who was later FIRED ) handled it terribly. Gene deserved to set his own retirement terms.

Stop spinning Shockernetters. You chose ... poorly.
Reverse the Curse. Hire a former Shocker player who played for GS and name the stadium after Gene.
Go Shox!

[Veritas]

I don't care what Pelfrey thinks because he's a KU basketball fan. For the 78-65 game, he told people that he might have pitched at WSU but he's been a KU basketball fan longer. He might be very loyal to Gene but he's not a true Wichita State guy.

Oh, and yes, Gene did a bunch of fundraising, but that indoor facility was not all his doing. There were development people in the athletics department who fundraised for that. Gene might have still been involved, but he wasn't the Lone Ranger on that one.

So was Ron Baker for most of his life. MP never stated he hoped the Shox lose.
Nice try Shirley.