Fire Todd Butler

[WstateU]

I like how, by where the ball lands, everyone throws their drinks in the air and the one guy just turns and walks out...

Thought the fan celebration was hilarious; didn't notice the guy turning around until you mentioned it... probably a fan of the team who gave up the 'jack' :)

[1972Shocker]

I like how, by where the ball lands, everyone throws their drinks in the air and the one guy just turns and walks out...

The guy in the gold hoody? Maybe it was Gene.

[WstateU]

The guy in the gold hoody? Maybe it was Gene.

Didn't notice that guy either.

Looks like one of these between them... :)

[Aargh]

Gotta be a myth. That's as crazy as faking a passed ball on a pickoff move to first...

I probably heard it from a TV announcer during a slow point in a game. I went looking for a link, and came up with this. Rollie fingers faked an intentional walk to Johnny Bench on a 3-2 count. Threw a slider instead. Dick Williams, Fingers' manager called the play.

http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/04/28/streaking-no-longer-jake-arrietas-quality-start-and-home-scoreless-streaks-ended-on-thursday/

[WheatShock]

If people think this team plays great, or good, or above average, or even average defense, they need to watch a LOT more baseball.

I don't think even the Royals defense could save this pitching staff.

[Cdizzle]

I don't think even the Royals defense could save this pitching staff.

While I agree, I'm not sure how it applies here.

[WheatShock]

While I agree, I'm not sure how it applies here.

I suppose my point is that I prefer teams to be built on defense and pitching, in that order. We need good pitchers, but we also need a competent defense so the pitchers will have the confidence to pitch to contact and let the defense work. An average pitcher who throws strikes coupled with a solid defense is better than a very good pitcher and a shoddy defense IMO.

[shockfan89_]

We have the opportunity to do something this week we haven't done all year and that is to finish a week above .500. We usually only have 4 games per week and that requires us to win 3 of 4 to finish above .500 which just hasn't been possible, but having 5 games this week (due to the rain out last week) we actually have a chance to go 3-2 and have a positive week for the first time this season.

4 of the 5 games are also home games so this is our best chance!!! Our opponents are also average at best with 2 games against K-State (21 - 23, RPI 130) and 3 games against ISU Blue (27-16, RPI 82). The down side is this also means we have to find the pitching for 45 innings this week which could make this task more difficult than it should be. Hopefully we can continue to get good starting pitching and somehow piece together 3 good games.

[1972Shocker]

We have the opportunity to do something this week we haven't done all year and that is to finish a week above .500

Taking advantage of opportunities has not exactly been a strength of this Shocker team. If Willie Schwanke remains unavailable the odds certainly don't seem to favor the Shocks accomplishing this. Even if and when Willie becomes available how effective he will be is anybody's guess.

[Cdizzle]

Maybe we should START Hayes. If he's great, we might steal a win. If not, at least we can all move on with our evenings after the 1st inning.

[WstateU]

We have the opportunity to do something this week we haven't done all year and that is to finish a week above .500. We usually only have 4 games per week and that requires us to win 3 of 4 to finish above .500 which just hasn't been possible, but having 5 games this week (due to the rain out last week) we actually have a chance to go 3-2 and have a positive week for the first time this season.

4 of the 5 games are also home games so this is our best chance!!! Our opponents are also average at best with 2 games against K-State (21 - 23, RPI 130) and 3 games against ISU Blue (27-16, RPI 82). The down side is this also means we have to find the pitching for 45 innings this week which could make this task more difficult than it should be. Hopefully we can continue to get good starting pitching and somehow piece together 3 good games.

[mjbaker84]

so k state coach was offered WSU job years ago and didn't take it?

Now he is coaching k-state and has a losing record? Will he be interested in coming to WSU? :)

[bleed yellow]

[QUOTE=mjbaker84;656662]so k state coach was offered WSU job years ago and didn't take it?

Now he is coaching k-state and has a losing record? Will he be interested in coming to WSU? :)

He has family in Hutch and that group falls into the rabid KU/KSU fan base.. You can talk abouy WSU around them, but they don't care and are annoyed by WSU's mere existance. I know these things.

[shockfan89_]

We are now 16-28 with 12 games to play. We have to go 12-0 to finish at .500 for the year.

[mjbaker84]

[QUOTE=bleed yellow;656672]

so k state coach was offered WSU job years ago and didn't take it?

Now he is coaching k-state and has a losing record? Will he be interested in coming to WSU? :)

He has family in Hutch and that group falls into the rabid KU/KSU fan base.. You can talk abouy WSU around them, but they don't care and are annoyed by WSU's mere existance. I know these things.

crap lol