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  • #16
    Thank goodness for Pan-Directional schools or Krusty would have a losing record. It sucks to have a ROADy coaching staff scuttling the ship.
    “Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor Jones

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    • #17
      Originally posted by DUShock View Post
      I am just waiting for Krusty's departure and then I will buy a punch pass that I stop buying after his Norman U-turn.
      I don't think they offer those anymore do they? Personally, I think those are a good idea.

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      • #18
        This is a clear cut failure on behalf of ADES. As the head of his department, he should have seen the paradox with which faces HCGS. That paradox is Gene's loyalty to his coaching staff which prevents him from firing ACJT; even at the peril of Gene being fired. Gene is too close to the forest and can't see the rotten tree (JT).
        ADES should have said, "Gene, I'm going to protect your legacy, help you get your record D1 wins and DEMAND the replacement of JT and replace him with someone that we can move into your position when YOU feel ready to retire based on enhanced success with OUR program." Someone needs to shake HCGS and wake him up to the futility of ACJT.

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        • #19
          I disagree. He didn't make many mistakes, but this one is squarely on the shoulders of ADJS. He completely BLUNDERED the Oklahoma debacle. He chose to stay out of town, and then upon his return, welcomed Gene back with open arms.

          He should have said, "A Wichita State man is going to coach Wichita State. Not an Oklahoman!"

          Or something like that from Bo.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
            I disagree. He didn't make many mistakes, but this one is squarely on the shoulders of ADJS. He completely BLUNDERED the Oklahoma debacle. He chose to stay out of town, and then upon his return, welcomed Gene back with open arms.

            He should have said, "A Wichita State man is going to coach Wichita State. Not an Oklahoman!"

            Or something like that from Bo.
            ADJS made the controversial decision based on solid performance standards and historical contributions of HCGS. However, performance has become very mediocre under the ADES watch and leadership. While I can certainly see your point from an emotional perspective, my critique on ADES is based on performance.

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            • #21
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              “Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor Jones

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Veritas View Post
                ADJS made the controversial decision based on solid performance standards and historical contributions of HCGS. However, performance has become very mediocre under the ADES watch and leadership. While I can certainly see your point from an emotional perspective, my critique on ADES is based on performance.
                I was told by somebody in the athletic department that the decision to take gene back was not made at the Athletic Director level but at the school president level. Gene did not even ask ADJS, but called the president (probably knowing what ADJS would have told to take a hike).

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
                  I was told by somebody in the athletic department that the decision to take gene back was not made at the Athletic Director level but at the school president level. Gene did not even ask ADJS, but called the president (probably knowing what ADJS would have told to take a hike).
                  That's what I've always heard. But I have no clue to be honest.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Veritas View Post
                    This is a clear cut failure on behalf of ADES. As the head of his department, he should have seen the paradox with which faces HCGS. That paradox is Gene's loyalty to his coaching staff which prevents him from firing ACJT; even at the peril of Gene being fired. Gene is too close to the forest and can't see the rotten tree (JT).
                    ADES should have said, "Gene, I'm going to protect your legacy, help you get your record D1 wins and DEMAND the replacement of JT and replace him with someone that we can move into your position when YOU feel ready to retire based on enhanced success with OUR program." Someone needs to shake HCGS and wake him up to the futility of ACJT.
                    not saying there is anything great about jt BUT I don't think you can lay the blame for our regression on him. the buck starts and stops with HCGS. they do well he gets the credit so if they do poorly he should get the blame, pure and simple. imho, it is time for some YOUNG fresh coaches who can relate to the players and fix the chemistry problem that has been a part of the program for at least the past 15 years

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                    • #25
                      Bottom line is that Gene's contract gives him control over hiring and firing his staff. That is where the buck stops.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
                        Bottom line is that Gene's contract gives him control over hiring and firing his staff. That is where the buck stops.
                        JT is year to year on his contract. Can Krusty control how much JT is paid?

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