Shockers vs Ducks Game 4

[SB Shock]

This one really makes friday afternoon hurt, oh well having 4 PAC-10 wins will help come at large time.

probably not - west coast teams get overlooked and are under represented in the RPI as it is. WSU is nearing the half way point of their season and they don't have an at-large resume.

WSU pitchers have lived on the edge all weekend so the reality they are getting what they deserve.

Right, 8 out of 10 PAC 10 teams in the tourney last year. All 10 finished rpi 68 or higher. Yep they get overlooked. What world do you live in?

Outlier. If you look at past history you will see they only get about 3 teams on average.

Basically you want all the games you can get with PAC-10, SEC, ACC.

No argument there - but you better win every game you have an opportunity. There is no margin for WSU.

Also who said WSU wasn't getting what they deserved to get? If they played well enough to deserve fridays afternoon victory they would have. I simply stated it hurts.

Just an editorial comment on this weekend and not directed at anything you said.

Also please note I said will help come at large time. No where did I say whether or not they were in. Go ahead and argue that 4 wins over PAC-10 teams won't help.

I'm arguing that WSU does not have a overall at-large RESUME at this point and we are almost to the midway point. So go ahead and try and argue they do have at-large worthy resume.

[Ta town]

This one really makes friday afternoon hurt, oh well having 4 PAC-10 wins will help come at large time.

probably not - west coast teams get overlooked and are under represented in the RPI as it is. WSU is nearing the half way point of their season and they don't have an at-large resume.

WSU pitchers have lived on the edge all weekend so the reality they are getting what they deserve.

Right, 8 out of 10 PAC 10 teams in the tourney last year. All 10 finished rpi 68 or higher. Yep they get overlooked. What world do you live in?

Outlier. If you look at past history you will see they only get about 3 teams on average.

Basically you want all the games you can get with PAC-10, SEC, ACC.

No argument there - but you better win every game you have an opportunity. There is no margin for WSU.

Also who said WSU wasn't getting what they deserved to get? If they played well enough to deserve fridays afternoon victory they would have. I simply stated it hurts.

Just an editorial comment on this weekend and not directed at anything you said.

Also please note I said will help come at large time. No where did I say whether or not they were in. Go ahead and argue that 4 wins over PAC-10 teams won't help.

I'm arguing that WSU does not have a overall at-large RESUME at this point and we are almost to the midway point. So go ahead and try and argue they do have at-large worthy resume.

I don't have to argue that. I never said they did. 4 wins over PAC-10 teams will help, thats what I said.

[Ta town]

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Outlier. If you look at past history you will see they only get about 3 teams on average.[/quote]

4,4,5,3,8 last five years.

So thats 24/5 = 4.8 a year

Looks to me about 3 is the exception and not the rule. I suppose you can go back further. I'm too lazy and who knows it might throw the argument back your way.

BTW, I screwed up the quote, my bad

[tru2thaduce]

we can turn the page and win 4 in Hawaii.That would be a solid trip.

[Ta town]

we can turn the page and win 4 in Hawaii.That would be a solid trip.

This teams seems awfully inconsistent to beat another team 4 in a row. I do hope for 3 out of 4 though.

[GoShockers89]

We wasted some chances this weekend, but a 4 game split on the road against a ranked team is not a bad thing. We are gaining confidence that we can beat anyone, anywhere. This is something we haven't been able to say since 2008.

Take care of business on the islands by winning at least 3 out of 4 and this road trip can be considered a big step in the right direction.

Don't forget that we have 12 out of 21 league games at home this season, including 12 out of the last 18. That could pay big dividends considering the huge difference between going, say 15-6 vs. 17-4 in league play for at-large and seeding purposes. Winning the league crown is obviously a must, and this can only help us in achieving that goal.

[Shocker85]

I thought the team played like they wanted to get the hell out of Oregon after the rain delay during today's game. The intensity just wasn't there. You have to show up for every game and play every inning, but I can't say I really blame them for going through the motions today. It was drizzly all day and I thought colder than any of the other days. Why play here when Hawai'i is on the docket in just a few days.

I don't know if wet turf and balls had anything to do with the errors today, but I'm sure it wasn't easy handling a cold, wet ball for 5 games (counting the Sat. game as a 2 fer 1).

I know I'm ready to see the sun for a change.

--'85.

[KC Shox]

I thought the team played like they wanted to get the hell out of Oregon after the rain delay during today's game. The intensity just wasn't there. You have to show up for every game and play every inning, but I can't say I really blame them for going through the motions today. It was drizzly all day and I thought colder than any of the other days. Why play here when Hawai'i is on the docket in just a few days.

I don't know if wet turf and balls had anything to do with the errors today, but I'm sure it wasn't easy handling a cold, wet ball for 5 games (counting the Sat. game as a 2 fer 1).

I know I'm ready to see the sun for a change.

--'85.

I don't know about that. We've had several games where this team opened in February playing in cloudy, windy 30 degree weather. You are right that the killer instinct is lacking on this team. Actually, it's been lacking for the past 3 years.

[ICT Ragman]

I actually think this team is kind of tough. I bet we have already had more come from behind rallies in the late innings than in a lot of years. I also think this team executes fundamentals pretty well.

I am optimistic. Of course would have preferred a 5-1 or 6-0 week but can't complain too much about a 4-2 week against Mountain West and Pac 10 competition and a 4-2 overall record vs. ranked Pac 10 teams for the year.

[ABC]

Ragman, you are nothing more than a sunshine pumper!

[ShockBand]

My gut feeling right now is that this is a good but flaky team. Flaky mainly in the sense that the little things that should be more consistent still aren't, kind of like the basketball team was much of this year. If they can work the flakies out, it could be a very good season. April is nearly here, time to kick it in boys!

[SB Shock]

Outlier. If you look at past history you will see they only get about 3 teams on average.[/quote]

4,4,5,3,8 last five years.

So thats 24/5 = 4.8 a year

Looks to me about 3 is the exception and not the rule. I suppose you can go back further. I'm too lazy and who knows it might throw the argument back your way.

BTW, I screwed up the quote, my bad[/quote]

Outside of last year (8) they have average 4.2 (six - 4 bids, 1-3 bids, 3- 5 bids). So I was off by 1 and some change. So if we were playing price or right would I have won or would have you?

[Shocker85]

My gut feeling right now is that this is a good but flaky team. Flaky mainly in the sense that the little things that should be more consistent still aren't, kind of like the basketball team was much of this year. If they can work the flakies out, it could be a very good season. April is nearly here, time to kick it in boys!

A comment on the flakiness - I agree and not that most of the individuals are particularly flaky (not Jamie Bluma flaky), but the team as a whole is highly inconsistent.

No one has been any sort of consistent offensively, and this team hasn't yet figured out how to boost its own confidence. Big innings vs. the better competition are few and far between. Even the pitching showed its flaky nature this weekend with all the BBs, which has NOT been the norm most years.

I'm not sure who the emotional leader of the team might be, but they need somebody within (not the coaches) to get them fired-up.

I can't track with Ragman's optimism to this point as this team is too inconsistent and perhaps too fragile to count on for a winning streak that extends very long.

--'85.

[SB Shock]

For this team to do anything it going to need to get some consistency from the following:

Coy - 0.260/0.319/0337 - was suppose to be high draft pick this summer because of his hitting prowess. To say he was under performing is understatement. Of course he could turn these numbers around with one good series against some MVC team but a weak hitting shocker team needs another consistent bat.

Flynn - Another puzzle piece that supposedly missing last year. Well he hasn't been the answer with his 4.40 ERA - and miserable WHIP of 1.5 (which the Team WHIP is 1.19).

Bottom of the lineup might as well be called Mendoza. Anybody remember when we had a Hooper batting 9th.

This pitching staff needs to figure out the walk issue that rears it head every so often.