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  • #16
    Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
    I think I got it, I can buy us some $100 hookers until they are declared eligible, right?

    - Andre McGee
    Is the word hookers really necessary on ShockerNet? Couldn't we use something more politically correct> Maybe something like "young ladies of a lesser ilk with a multitude of daddy issues".
    "You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."

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    • #17
      Originally posted by ShockdaWorld View Post
      Is the word hookers really necessary on ShockerNet? Couldn't we use something more politically correct> Maybe something like "young ladies of a lesser ilk with a multitude of daddy issues".
      Ice cream over pie, my friend. Ice cream over pie. (that was a @pinstripers: classic)
      Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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      • #18
        Who here really thinks that if you wait until they pass their first semester classes think they will actually fail? I guarantee every school who takes this chance will make sure they have a semester's worth of unfailable classes for their risky one-and-dones to take. The 2nd semester won't matter.

        The blue bloods and any other school trying to recruit OADs will salivate at such a rule.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
          Who here really thinks that if you wait until they pass their first semester classes think they will actually fail? I guarantee every school who takes this chance will make sure they have a semester's worth of unfailable classes for their risky one-and-dones to take. The 2nd semester won't matter.

          The blue bloods and any other school trying to recruit OADs will salivate at such a rule.
          Hello and welcome to "Enrolling in a Class 101." By virtue of having enrolled, you pass the class! Congratulations!
          "Cotton scared me - I left him alone." - B4MSU (Bear Nation poster) in reference to heckling players

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          • #20
            Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
            Who here really thinks that if you wait until they pass their first semester classes think they will actually fail? I guarantee every school who takes this chance will make sure they have a semester's worth of unfailable classes for their risky one-and-dones to take. The 2nd semester won't matter.

            The blue bloods and any other school trying to recruit OADs will salivate at such a rule.
            UNC had an entire major comprised of these types of classes :)

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            • #21
              Fran Fraschilla said something on Twitter about Diallo should be cleared for KU. I asked him if Diallo hadn't done enough academically to be admitted elsewhere, should he still be cleared for KU. Fran never responded, but an account calling itself "KULiveTweetsAndNews" jumped on my thread talking about how i had no idea what i was talking about and what made me think Diallo was dumb, etc. I stated very clearly that I didn't know or say anything about Diallo being dumb. Went back and forth for a while and I made a comment about BS being willing to scrape the bottom of the character barrel when looking for talent. His response was that everybody does it, "even Turgeon and Marshall." Told him that BS does it more than all the other guys he mentioned combined. He says "Frankamp never did anything wrong until he went to WSU and got a DUI." I laughed at him and told him that we both knew better than that, and that CF just wasn't above the law in Wichita. He said something else about that's what everybody thinks about KU, that they get special treatment, but that they really don't, and that I should stop thinking we had some history of being elite. I laughed again and told him that I didn't say anything about my team or to him, but to Fran, and ended it with a #LivingRentFree #78-65. He blocked me after that one...but CF liked the tweet. I feel better about him already.
              "You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Aargh View Post
                If the NCAA were to drop academic requirements, they would lose the concept that the players are really students volunteering to represent their school. That's what the NCAA has fought to avoid admitting forever.

                If the athletes aren't students first, then they are hired, professional athletes. That would destroy the NCAA's entire reason for existing.
                it would also end my desire to watch the sports. I do not want to watch professionals. I choose college athletics over professional athletics at every opportunity. There are reasons for that.

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                • #23
                  It's interesting comparing the saga of Orupke and Diallo - granted Diallo is a higher rated prospect, but that shouldn't change the hoops for the NCAA, although the beakers really feel it should.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by shock View Post
                    These kids are STUDENT athletes. If they want their skills to better their situation, go overseas a la Brandon Jennings. Do not let greed taint our academic system. Doing this would devalue every degree handed out by any university who brings in a Diallo or a Cliff Alexander, even though they will likely never complete more than 12 credits.
                    Kevin Ross-Creighton

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Aargh View Post
                      If the NCAA were to drop academic requirements, they would lose the concept that the players are really students volunteering to represent their school. That's what the NCAA has fought to avoid admitting forever.

                      If the athletes aren't students first, then they are hired, professional athletes. That would destroy the NCAA's entire reason for existing.
                      But isn't that what the power conferences really want? Total autonomy over their athletics and money it generates. Football is only the precursor to the eventual dissolution of the ncaa

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                      • #26
                        I agree with this! Just wish that these OAD kids/special players could just be honest about their desires. We would find that most all of them do not want to
                        attend college and take any classes. They are only in college because it gives the best free advertisement of their skills and would much rather go straight to NBA.
                        Going overseas is an option but would take some intestinal fortitude and maturity to leave friends/family behind for a year. Either open up the NBA for 18yr olds, go
                        to D-league, or go overseas and play professionally. Actually kind of respect what Mudiaye ended up doing. Claimed all along family needed money, didnt look as if
                        he would make the cut academically for college, went to china and made $ for one year, drafted first round NBA. the media outlets are making the big bucks and
                        driving this whole issue in my opinion. Bleeding heart stories like parrish's all over the place hold very little logic when you really look at what they are saying.

                        Media has made so much $ off of amateur sports, that now many colleges, players, ncaa, etc want a piece of the pie. Are we fans expected to really believe that
                        Okafor wanted to be in college vs NBA last year? What good does one year of pud classes do anybody? AAU teams, agents, shoe companies are involved also
                        in making the amateur model a joke.

                        If a kid can sign with the military and deal with REAL RISKS(life), then why is it that so many media personnel start crying about how unfair it would be to allow
                        an 18 yr old to play in NBA and deal with all the "sharks" that are out to get his money? OADs and all the associated press, agents, shoe companies, etc are to
                        blame for ruining the amateur model. What can we fans of amateur sports do about it other than not watch our favorite amateur sports to send a message?

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                        • #27
                          Did anyone get to see Diallo's first game? I watched bits and pieces of it, and to be honest, I wasn't all that impressed. I mean, the kid's not bad or anything, but after all the hype, I expected him to just be an absolute beast. To me he looks like a slightly more talented but less physically dominant version of Cliff Alexander. I'm more impressed with the Bragg kid. Oh, and that break away finesse dunk with the hand behind his head? Come on man, you're 6'9"-6'10". You should be bringing the house down and rocking the rim, not putting on your pretty boy picture pose.

                          On another note, Perry is playing like a man on a mission thus far.
                          "You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ShockdaWorld View Post
                            Did anyone get to see Diallo's first game? I watched bits and pieces of it, and to be honest, I wasn't all that impressed. I mean, the kid's not bad or anything, but after all the hype, I expected him to just be an absolute beast. To me he looks like a slightly more talented but less physically dominant version of Cliff Alexander. I'm more impressed with the Bragg kid. Oh, and that break away finesse dunk with the hand behind his head? Come on man, you're 6'9"-6'10". You should be bringing the house down and rocking the rim, not putting on your pretty boy picture pose.

                            On another note, Perry is playing like a man on a mission thus far.
                            I watched it. What is not to be impressed about. He runs the floor better than some guards. He has a solid looking stroke from mid-range. His timing around the basket was good. His body is mature. Oh, by the way he scored 13 points in the second half. After he became comfortable, it was on. A very impressive young man.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by SHOXMVC View Post
                              I watched it. What is not to be impressed about. He runs the floor better than some guards. He has a solid looking stroke from mid-range. His timing around the basket was good. His body is mature. Oh, by the way he scored 13 points in the second half. After he became comfortable, it was on. A very impressive young man.
                              Like I said, I only watched bits and pieces. He was good for a freshman, but I just expected him to be a dominating physical big man. I didn't intend to imply that he was bad. He just wasn't the beast I was expecting to see.
                              "You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ShockdaWorld View Post
                                Like I said, I only watched bits and pieces. He was good for a freshman, but I just expected him to be a dominating physical big man. I didn't intend to imply that he was bad. He just wasn't the beast I was expecting to see.
                                He reminded me of Patrick Ewing as a freshman. Ewing tried to block every shot, as did CD. He is very daunting in my opinion. I expect him to be the buger boy he has been advertised.

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