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It needs some serious work. There were "feelers" for a renovation sent out to boosters and alumni last fall I believe. So far that hasn't turned into anything substantial.
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Yeah, but how many of these stadiums have a track surrounding the field? This not only oozes high school, but also pushes back the crowd away from the field. Memorial stadium is not only small, but when your crowd is 100 feet from the field, that's gotta hurt the 12th man advantage right?Originally posted by ripemupshocks View PostComment
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Being further away just means that it is harder to see what is happening on the field, which has to be a selling point if you are a KU football fan, right?Originally posted by KC Shox View Post"Cotton scared me - I left him alone." - B4MSU (Bear Nation poster) in reference to heckling playersComment
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The only 12th man in KU history is in the Orange BowlOriginally posted by KC Shox View PostThe mountains are calling, and I must go.Comment
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Originally posted by ripemupshocks View PostI don't know. Did you bother to read my post responding to the assertion made by bleed yellow that the chickenhawks have no football culture because they have an old stadium, and since it's old it should be torn down? I'll assume not, since you did not respond to my assertion that an older football stadium should lead to a greater football culture. Instead you came up with two other issues. Stadium size and the track surrounding the football field.Originally posted by KC Shox View Post
First, stadium size. It does not seem to be a problem for programs with great football culture like Georgia tech (Bobby Dood Stadium-1913, cap. 55,000) or Ole Miss (Vaught-Hemingway Stadium-1915, cap. 60,580) or Stanford (Stanford Stadium-1921, cap. 50,000) or Mississippi State (Davis Wade Stadium-1914, cap. 55,082) or TCU (Amon G. Carter Stadium-1929, cap. 45,000).
Regarding the track. It does not push the crowd back 100 feet from the field. IAAF regulations (the Olympics and most universities conform to IAAF track deminsions. If KU doesn't, their lanes will be narrower) require 4 foot wide lanes, including the lane lines. If KU's track is 8 lanes wide, that's only 32 feet beyond the NCAA required setback from the sideline (space from sideline to coachs box, coachs box, team box, space from team box to restraining line) which is 30 feet total. For reasons of safety and security, most of the stadiums listed above have at least an additional 20 feet of space to the first row of seating. So chickenhawk fans are not much further away from the sideline in their stadium than fans in stadiums without a track. But if the track is that big a deal, it shouldn't be a problem for the flagship institution to spend the money to scrape up the track and football field, dig out an additional four feet of dirt and put in a couple thousand new seats and a new field, thereby putting the first row of seats closer to the new football field. But DO NOT destroy the one thing they have going for them; an historic stadium. This is not a; which came first, the chickenhawk or the egg scenario. New stadiums don't win games. Dedicated, hard working administrators, coachs, players and fans win games."Hank Iba decided he wouldn't play my team anymore. He told me that if he tried to get his team ready to play me, it would upset his team the rest of the season." Gene Johnson, WU Basketball coach, 1928-1933.Comment
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My assertion that Memorial Stadium doesn't help KU's football situation isn't that far off. KU fans seem to think the same thing for the most part. Their football stadium is just one more thing for them think about while they try to fix their football mess. And they don't like thinking about it...Comment
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If Ku were winning in football they would love their old stadium. Look at their old, very uncomfortable basketball arena. I think every ku fan I know loves that cramped, uncomfortable old arena. Winning makes a big difference on how they view the venues.Originally posted by bleed yellow View PostComment
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Allen Field House is regarded as one of the loudest college basketball stadiums in the U.S.. It's not coming down anytime soon, as long as a venue serves as a great advantage for the home team, all is good with that venue unless it starts having structure issues and falling apart. Same goes with Koch Arena.Comment
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Excuses are like butt holes. Everyone has one, but nobody wants to hear anybody else's.Originally posted by bleed yellow View PostKung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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Allen Fieldhouse IS a dump. So is Fenway Park and Wrigley Field.
USC and UCLA play in stadiums with tracks. So do several other prominent football teams.
Winning transforms a dump into a National Historic Landmark.
Winning negates the "Track Factor".
Winning is all that matters.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.Comment
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Allen Fieldhouse= Dump.
Fenway Park = Dump.
UCLA and USC both play in stadiums with tracks.
Winning fixes everything. Winning changes a stadium from a dump to an historic landmark. Winning negates the "Track Factor".
Winning is all that matters.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.Comment
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I remember being in Austin some years ago -- probably early to mid-90s -- and you could actually get into the football stadium and run around, or play Frisbee or whatever, because they had artificial turf and weren't worried about it getting chewed up. And I'm almost sure (this was before they built the track stadium they now have) they had a track around the field, and even held the Texas Relays there. Needless to say, their football culture wasn't damaged by having a track around the field.
The difference between Texas and Kansas, of course, that UT -- t.u. to you, Ricky -- and Texas in general have an actual football culture. KU does not, and it's hard to imagine they ever will. So the track is a red herring, KC.Comment
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Thank you for understanding what I was getting at. KU football had a decent run from 2005 to 2008 and it didn't change their attitude towards football at all. From what I understand there has been chatter up there about removing the track around their football field and and refurbishing Memorial Stadium again so it at least "looks" like the KU athletic department is trying to keep up with mostly everyone else. The chatter never amounts to anything though because their entire football situation is a complete mess. Their sports culture is bad for everything in general except basketball. To me it's just amazing that the university isn't becoming some what concerned.. But then again, their lack of sports culture for everything except basketball is a subject most of their fans do their best to avoid.Originally posted by WSUwatcher View PostComment
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Next stop for Lane Kiffin, KU football!Comment
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Since k who is a very politicaly correct school I believe the correct term to be 12th person advantage.Originally posted by KC Shox View PostComment
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