Obama - Interpol is above US Law

[SB Shock]

Obama quietly signs executive order that amends executive order 12425. The amendments gives:

1. Interpol full diplomatic immunity. Basically elevates interpol above US American Law. This allows interpol to operate on US soil beyond the reach of even US law enforcement agencies.

2. It is immune from the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests.

3. It is exempt from US taxation.

Can you say "Loss of sovereignty"?

http://threatswatch.org/analysis/2009/12/wither-sovereignty/

[url]http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MGY3MTI4YTRjZmYwMGU1ZjZhOGJmNmQ0NmJiZDNmMDY=

[SubGod22]

Does this really surprise anyone?

[BenWSU]

UN control next

[wsushox1]

Original Ammendmant giving INTERPOL full immunity was signed by your guys hero Ronald Reagan. So don't give me this bull shi* that Obama changed it so it would be ammended to allow immunity. Seriously see some things from both sides.....

[SB Shock]

Original Ammendmant giving INTERPOL full immunity was signed by your guys hero Ronald Reagan. So don't give me this bull shi* that Obama changed it so it would be ammended to allow immunity. Seriously see some things from both sides.....

I see the lefties drug use has killed all their brain cells.

President Reagan executive order recognized Interpol as a international organization. It provided privileges and immunities afforded foreign diplomats except for Section 2c, Section 3, Section 4, Section 5 and Section 6 of the United States International Organizations Immunities Act

Section 2c of the United States International Organizations Immunities Act

Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable.

Obama ammended the executive order to remove the exemption.

In light of what we know and can observe, it is our logical conclusion that President Obama's Executive Order amending President Ronald Reagans' 1983 EO 12425 and placing INTERPOL above the United States Constitution and beyond the legal reach of our own top law enforcement is a precursor to more damaging moves.

[ISASO]

I heard a wise man say yesterday, paraphrasing:

Erosion of liberty in small increments almost seems acceptable when it is happening. Then one day you realize that it's all gone and you can't do a damn thing to get it back.

Then he quoted one of our founding fathers:

"A government big enough to give you everything you want,
is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson
3rd President, Jan 20, 1777 to Jan 20, 1781

[RoyalShock]

Erosion of liberty in small increments almost seems acceptable when it is happening. Then one day you realize that it's all gone and you can't do a damn thing to get it back.

Then he quoted one of our founding fathers:

"A government big enough to give you everything you want,
is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson
3rd President, Jan 20, 1777 to Jan 20, 1781

[broken record]

"Bi-partisan" Patriot Act.

It used to be liberty before security. We have completely turned it around.

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

[/broken record]

[kcshocker11]

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/12/just-what-did-president-obamas-executive-order-regarding-interpol-do.html

Heres the real scoup.

In Lyon, France, 2003, then-Attorney General John Ashcroft spoke to INTERPOL and said to Noble, "INTERPOL was already a top-flight law enforcement organization, but your dynamic leadership has brought new dimensions to this global crime-fighting resource."

Reagan's 1983 executive order, however, did not provide blanket exemptions for INTERPOL officials, who at the time did not have a permanent office in the US. The provisions of the International Organizations Immunities Act that INTERPOL officials were not exempt from included:

• Section 2(c), which provided officials immunity from their property and assets being searched and confiscated; including their archives;
• the portions of Section 2(d) and Section 3 relating to customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes;
• Section 4, dealing with federal taxes;
• Section 5, dealing with Social Security; and
• Section 6, dealing with property taxes.

I'm told INTERPOL didn't have a permanent office in the US until 2004, which is why it wasn’t until this month afforded the same full privileges given, say, the Inter-American Tropical Tuna Commission by President Kennedy in 1962.

In September 1995, President Clinton updated Reagan's executive order with Executive Order No. 12971, giving INTERPOL officials exemption from some of the customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes’.

Then in his December 17, 2009, executive order President Obama exempted INTERPOL from the rest of the exceptions Reagan listed -- Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6

So what does the counterterrorism official from the Bush years think of this?

He can't believe it's taken this long.

"To the extent that granting these immunities to INTERPOL furthers the efficacy or ease of information-sharing or joint action on an expedited basis to act on warrants
seems like a no brainer to me," the official says.

"Conservatives can't have it both ways," the official says. "You can't be complaining about the hypothetical abdication of US jurisdiction at the same time you're complaining the Obama administration is not being tough enough on national security."

Obama administration officials say this new executive order doesn't allow INTERPOL to do any more than they were allowed to do once Reagan recognized them as a public international organization. Though clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records, officials say, those provisions can be waived by the president if need be.

Who has benefitted from this in the past.

President Nixon did it for the United International Bureaux for the Protection of Intellectual Property.

President Reagan bestowed these privileges to the African Development Bank, the International Boundary and Water Commission, United States and Mexico, and the World Tourism Organization, among others.

President Bush through Executive Orders covered the European Central Bank, the African Union and the Global Fund to Fight AIDS Tuberculosis and Malaria.

Like Royal I think the erosion of privacy is bad i.e. Patriot act, but to hear the same people howl about this when they allowed the Govt to spy on us is ridiculous and at best hypocritical

PS No I will not responsed to a certain posters soon to be psychotic rant. 8)

Now back to BBall! :posterwu: 8)

[Maggie]

Obama administration officials say this new executive order doesn't allow INTERPOL to do any more than they were allowed to do once Reagan recognized them as a public international organization. Though clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records, officials say, those provisions can be waived by the president if need be.

“Interesting” paragraph, don’t you think? Do you find this at all troubling in light of the fact that Interpol is a law enforcement agency?

[kcshocker11]

Obama administration officials say this new executive order doesn't allow INTERPOL to do any more than they were allowed to do once Reagan recognized them as a public international organization. Though clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records, officials say, those provisions can be waived by the president if need be.

“Interesting” paragraph, don’t you think? Do you find this at all troubling in light of the fact that Interpol is a law enforcement agency?

No, Im not worried about fictitious conspiracies 8)

[Maggie]

Obama administration officials say this new executive order doesn't allow INTERPOL to do any more than they were allowed to do once Reagan recognized them as a public international organization. Though clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records, officials say, those provisions can be waived by the president if need be.

“Interesting” paragraph, don’t you think? Do you find this at all troubling in light of the fact that Interpol is a law enforcement agency?

No, Im not worried about fictitious conspiracies 8)

I never wrote anything about a conspiracy. I just think McCarthy in the post linked to above asks some reasonable questions.

Why would we elevate an international police force above American law? Why would we immunize an international police force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American law-enforcement agencies? Why is it suddenly necessary to have, within the Justice Department, a repository for stashing government files which, therefore, will be beyond the ability of Congress, American law-enforcement, the media, and the American people to scrutinize?