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  • #31
    Obviously due to their tanking viewership which causes tanking revenue, the "mainstream" media couldn't afford such an investigation.

    I guess that's why the Obama Administration's Ministry of Information is now moving to give itself the power to shut down the internet when it deems necessary.

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    • #32
      Here is an interview with James O'Keefe by NBC's Mara Schiavocampo.

      James O'Keefe Interview

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      • #33
        Originally posted by 1979Shocker
        Here is an interview with James O'Keefe by NBC's Mara Schiavocampo.

        James O'Keefe Interview
        A nice young man that made a spoof video. Thank You for that excellent reporting NBC.
        "Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should accomplish with your ability."
        -John Wooden

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        • #34
          ACORN files suit against filmmakers

          I am not convinced this was a good move….for ACORN.

          As an aside, where do I send in my check for the defense fund?

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          • #35
            Definitely not a good move by ACORN
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            • #36
              They've already lost federal funding. Their other sources of income aren't going anywhere. Their core supporters, employees and those they help will stick around.

              They have nothing to lose but attorney fees. Hopefully, they'll lose a lot of that!

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              • #37
                They have a lot more to lose than attorney fees.

                For starters, it is my initial impression that Breitbart will probably have First Amendment protection. As for the Maryland wiretap statute I am not familiar with it (although I am familiar with the equivalents in New York and New Jersey as well as the Federal statute). Without further research, which I don’t have time to do, I can’t say whether O’Keefe and Giles actually violated Maryland law – but it is possible – wiretap statutes are state specific.

                Notwithstanding, the defense attorneys, whoever they might end up being, could make ACORN suffer.

                First, ACORN filed in state court in Baltimore to get the home field advantage, but there is diversity jurisdiction and it will almost certainly be removed to federal court. That will likely be the defendants' first move. Now I'm not terribly familiar with that federal district (I have done limited work there over the years), but it is more conservative than a Maryland state court. Moreover, it lies in the Fourth Circuit, which leans conservative, so there is an excellent appellate "back stop" that will be a great advantage to the defendants.

                It is also bizarre that the fired employees are joining in the suit with ACORN, the entity that fired them. That complicates just about every legal theory, and even has possible ethical complications for their attorneys. I'd have to think about the issue some more, but at first blush I think the defendants' attorneys might want to move to disqualify the ACORN attorneys from representing all three plaintiffs on the grounds that the fired employees have, essentially, wrongful discharge claims against ACORN. Even if the motion is unsuccessful, each of the plaintiffs will have to take a stand, very early on in the litigation, as to whether or not the firings were appropriate. None of them have any good answers to that question.

                After that and this is the key point - trust me - good lawyers working on behalf of the defense can play havoc with ACORN propounding discovery that looks into the group’s business practices. The defense could ask ACORN all kinds of background questions, from getting the names of people who came in for similar mortgages to all kinds of creative discoveries.

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                • #38
                  Those are all great points, Maggie. And I have a follow-up question.

                  If some unsavory things are discovered in that process will it come to public light and cause them further problems or will it not escape the court case?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by RoyalShock
                    Those are all great points, Maggie. And I have a follow-up question.

                    If some unsavory things are discovered in that process will it come to public light and cause them further problems or will it not escape the court case?
                    It could cause them (the organization and its members) serious problems (you have seen A Few Good Men, right? :) ).

                    Which is why, in part, I don’t think this was such a clever move by ACORN. It could very well be a gift that keeps on giving - from a certain perspective, of course.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Maggie
                      Originally posted by RoyalShock
                      Those are all great points, Maggie. And I have a follow-up question.

                      If some unsavory things are discovered in that process will it come to public light and cause them further problems or will it not escape the court case?
                      It could cause them (the organization and its members) serious problems (you have seen A Few Good Men, right? :) ).

                      Which is why, in part, I don’t think this was such a clever move by ACORN. It could very well be a gift that keeps on giving - from a certain perspective, of course.
                      We can hope!

                      (Hey, there's that hopey, changey thing! Thanks Obama!)

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                      • #41
                        ACORN Rule May Trap Defense Contractors in Defunding Web

                        Republicans intent on cutting off community organization ACORN from the federal trough may have inadvertently alienated defense contractors.

                        The defense industry is a long-time ally of Republicans. Last week, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., crafted a parliamentary maneuver to strip the widely-scorned group from any federal funds.

                        Democrats went along with the effort, okaying Issa's motion 345-75.

                        But the anti-ACORN provision was written so broadly that it could potentially not only strip ACORN of federal dollars, but also pummel defense contractors.
                        Whoops.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by 1979Shocker
                          ACORN Rule May Trap Defense Contractors in Defunding Web

                          Republicans intent on cutting off community organization ACORN from the federal trough may have inadvertently alienated defense contractors.

                          The defense industry is a long-time ally of Republicans. Last week, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., crafted a parliamentary maneuver to strip the widely-scorned group from any federal funds.

                          Democrats went along with the effort, okaying Issa's motion 345-75.

                          But the anti-ACORN provision was written so broadly that it could potentially not only strip ACORN of federal dollars, but also pummel defense contractors.
                          Whoops.
                          Corruption and wasteful spending should be fought at all levels.

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                          • #43
                            I agree completely. There are way too many "defense contractors" in the pockets of the U.S.


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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by ShockCity
                              I agree completely. There are way too many "defense contractors" in the pockets of the U.S.
                              That's a bit of a broad statement with no details.

                              Please provide examples.

                              And I too agree that if there is waste and fraud, let's cut it no matter where it is.....of course the BETTER idea would not to throw money at every problem as if money fixes every problem. Liberals should have learned this lesson by now.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by WuDrWu
                                Originally posted by ShockCity
                                I agree completely. There are way too many "defense contractors" in the pockets of the U.S.
                                That's a bit of a broad statement with no details.

                                Please provide examples.

                                And I too agree that if there is waste and fraud, let's cut it no matter where it is.....of course the BETTER idea would not to throw money at every problem as if money fixes every problem. Liberals should have learned this lesson by now.
                                The Federal Contractor Misconduct Database lists the top 100 Contractors, the number of misconducts since 1995, and other information.

                                Some of the top contractors include Lockheed Martin with 50 misconducts, Boeing Company with 31, Northrup Grumman with 27, and General Dynamics with 9.

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