Healthcare Hypocricy?

[MoValley John]

From what I've seen today, here are some of the upcoming Democratic talking points.

1. We must be patient, this is complex, dont judge this too early.

2. It's working, give it time.

3. All tech stuff has glitches, the Republicans just want to throw ACA away before the American people find out they want it.

4. Women will love it. FREE MAMOGRAMS!

[1979Shocker]

4. Women will love it. FREE MAMOGRAMS!

Not necessarily. From WebMD.com:

Q: Do all health plans have to provide free preventive care?

A: No. Insurance plans that were already in place when health reform became law on March 23, 2010, are considered grandfathered and won't be required to comply with a number of provisions of the new law.

However, the expectation is that most health plans will lose their grandfathered status due to significant changes in their benefit design by 2014 and be required to comply with all aspects of the new law.

[Kung Wu]

If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.

- B. H. Obama

What a liar.

[wu_shizzle]

It was inevitable:

[1979Shocker]

I asked this probably a month or so ago, but never got an answer. If we could repeal Obamacare (the ACA), is there a plan that would take its place? Or, would we just go back to the status quo where premiums more than doubled in the last decade?

I'm all for getting the government out of things like that if something can replace it, but since there are always going to be people that won't be able to afford healthcare, will there then be people or organizations that will be able to take up the slack? I'm guessing there won't be. Otherwise, it would ahve already happened.

Do we just take the status quo as something we have to accept, that there will be these millions of people without health insurance and that our premiums will just have to be higher as a result?

[WuDrWu]

Newsflash to bleeding heart libs out there:

If you want to cover those that can't or won't cover themselves, and you want to cover all their pre-existing issues, AND you want there to be no cap ever on the amount, AND you want to add services and "preventative care" that they may or may not want, AND no one can be turned down......

Then it's going to to cost those of us that pay more.

For those that don't have insurance, when it becomes more important for YOU to find a way to get insurance than it does for you to find a way to get ME to pay for it, then come see me and we'll figure something out. As long as it's more important to get me to pay for your insurance, GFY.

[RoyalShock]

I asked this probably a month or so ago, but never got an answer. If we could repeal Obamacare (the ACA), is there a plan that would take its place? Or, would we just go back to the status quo where premiums more than doubled in the last decade?

I'm all for getting the government out of things like that if something can replace it, but since there are always going to be people that won't be able to afford healthcare, will there then be people or organizations that will be able to take up the slack? I'm guessing there won't be. Otherwise, it would ahve already happened.

Do we just take the status quo as something we have to accept, that there will be these millions of people without health insurance and that our premiums will just have to be higher as a result?

Why are those the only two options?

[RoyalShock]

One of the things that perplex me about this whole healthcare debate is the idea that healthcare is a right. If it's a right, then you wouldn't need others to pay for it. No, if someone else has to pay for it, then it's a privilege.

Is it wrong for me to take offense at the idea that if I don't pay for your "right", I will be fined, and potentially thrown in jail if I don't pay those fines?

That this isn't plainly obvious, is one big reason why I have little hope for the survival of our republic.

[1979Shocker]

One of the things that perplex me about this whole healthcare debate is the idea that healthcare is a right. If it's a right, then you wouldn't need others to pay for it. No, if someone else has to pay for it, then it's a privilege.

Is it wrong for me to take offense at the idea that if I don't pay for your "right", I will be fined, and potentially thrown in jail if I don't pay those fines?

That this isn't plainly obvious, is one big reason why I have little hope for the survival of our republic.

It's not wrong for you to take offense.

But if government can't care for it's poor, either through healthcare or by some other means, or if we take the government out of the picture and let the people (those who are able to) take care of the poor and they refuse to, then it would lead me to believe that the nation as a whole is an uncaring nation.

[Kung Wu]

I asked this probably a month or so ago, but never got an answer. If we could repeal Obamacare (the ACA), is there a plan that would take its place? Or, would we just go back to the status quo where premiums more than doubled in the last decade?

Well ... why did premiums more than double in the last decade?

[1979Shocker]

Well ... why did premiums more than double in the last decade?

I give up. Why?

I also should be clearer about the last decade. That would be from 1999-2009. The average family health insurance during that time increased by 131% according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/industries/health/2009-09-15-insurance-costs_N.htm

[pinstripers]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/28/Dem-Strategist-Dem-Party-is-Fed

[SB Shock]

This has to be the funniest quote from the LA Time story.

'I was all for Obamacare until I found out I was paying for it,'"

[MoValley John]

We are all being too hard on Obama, after all, he closed the GTMO prison just as promised. I know it was the simplest of his promises, but yeah, he closed the GTMO prison during his first week in office.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

My cost for my company sponsored health care is doubling next year, with higher deductibles and co-insurance.