Georgia 6th District Election Results

[MoValley John]

You're equating a stutter with language befitting a 10 year old. Not the same. Also notice how every single one of those clips cut off before he gets to his statements.

Ummm, no. I was around theough the eight years of Obama. I voted for him in 2008. I have yet to ever vote for Trump. When Obama got off script, he was lost until the teleprompter was fixed. Remember the Special Olympics comment?

I don't think that makes Obama dimb, far from it. I'm just pointing out that those throwing stones at Trump for being a poor speaker are giving Obama a free pass for the same shortcoming.

[CBB_Fan]

Some of it makes literally no sense. Even Deplorable's can interpret it for what it is. A load of ----!

Give me 150 hours of tape and I could make any person look like an utter buffoon. Give me 1,000 hours of tape of Trump speaking, and I couldn't make him appear smart.

Trump hasn't shown any capability for higher level vocabulary and grammar. Nothing Trump has ever said or written at the level of Obama's op-ed in the Economist, and that can be proven mathematically. Even his pre-written speeches are tailored to be simpler than those of past Presidents.

Please understand the difference between being capable of stupidity (we all are), and not being capable of producing a college level or even high school level paper.

At no point has Trump shown the ability to read and write at a college level. At no point has he shown the ability to understand complex and nuanced issues, or to take advice from those that do. That is a far darker mark than simply stammering or not making sense once or twice.

Trump didn't make a single detailed policy explanation in 3 debates against Hillary Clinton. Here is an actual excerpt:

HOLT: How are you going to bring back the industries that have left this country for cheaper labor overseas? How, specifically, are you going to tell American manufacturers that you have to come back?

TRUMP: Well, for one thing -- and before we start on that -- my father gave me a very small loan in 1975, and I built it into a company that's worth many, many billions of dollars, with some of the greatest assets in the world, and I say that only because that's the kind of thinking that our country needs.


Our country's in deep trouble. We don't know what we're doing when it comes to devaluations and all of these countries all over the world, especially China. They're the best, the best ever at it. What they're doing to us is a very, very sad thing.


So we have to do that. We have to renegotiate our trade deals. And, Lester, they're taking our jobs, they're giving incentives, they're doing things that, frankly, we don't do.


Let me give you the example of Mexico. They have a VAT tax. We're on a different system. When we sell into Mexico, there's a tax. When they sell in -- automatic, 16 percent, approximately. When they sell into us, there's no tax. It's a defective agreement. It's been defective for a long time, many years, but the politicians haven't done anything about it.


Now, in all fairness to Secretary Clinton -- yes, is that OK? Good. I want you to be very happy. It's very important to me.


But in all fairness to Secretary Clinton, when she started talking about this, it was really very recently. She's been doing this for 30 years. And why hasn't she made the agreements better? The NAFTA agreement is defective. Just because of the tax and many other reasons, but just because of the fact...

In that rambling, disjointed statement Trump never stated an explicit policy, never said how he was going to tell manufacturers to come back.

He didn't, because he couldn't.

[MoValley John]

So Obama is a genius because he graduated from Harvard and Trump is a buffoon even though he graduated from Wharton?

I feel dirty for even defending the guy, but the liberal attacks border on ridiculous.

[CBB_Fan]

And for the record, out the Republicans I wanted Ted Cruz or Rand Paul. Ted Cruz is a undeniable genius, and would have been smartest President since Nixon (who was also insanely smart, but paranoid to the point that it ended his Presidency).

[CBB_Fan]

So Obama is a genius because he graduated from Harvard and Trump is a buffoon even though he graduated from Wharton?

I feel dirty for even defending the guy, but the liberal attacks border on ridiculous.

Obama isn't necessarily smart for graduating from Harvard, but getting a 3.8 GPA there is pretty good evidence of intelligence. Trump reportedly got into Wharton as a favor (as per Gwenda Blair's 2001 autobiography) and wasn't an honors student.

But again, the proof is in their words, not their degrees. I have never read or heard anything from Trump at even a high school grade level, never seen him talk policy on anything other than a superficial level. Compare what I quoted above to this Obama-Hillary transcript:

Obama: Now, keep in mind that I have consistently said that Senator Clinton's got a good health care plan. I think I have a good health care plan. I think mine is better.

But I have said that 95 percent of our health care plan is similar. I have endured, over the course of this campaign, repeated negative mail from Senator Clinton in Iowa, in Nevada, and other places, suggesting that I want to leave 15 million people out.


According to Senator Clinton, that is accurate. I dispute it and I think it is inaccurate. On the other hand, I don't fault Senator Clinton for wanting to point out what she thinks is an advantage to her plan.
The reason she thinks that there are more people covered under her plan than mine is because of a mandate. That is not a mandate for the government to provide coverage to everybody. It is a mandate that every individual purchase health care.

And the mailing that we put out accurately indicates that the main difference between Senator Clinton's plan and mine is the fact that she would force, in some fashion, individuals to purchase health care.

If it was not affordable, she would still presumably force them to have it, unless there is a hardship exemption, as they've done in Massachusetts, which leaves 20 percent of the uninsured out. And if that's the case, then, in fact, her claim that she covers everybody is not accurate.

He talks about a specific policy (the individual mandate) and how it was the difference between their two plans, and why he thinks he plan is better. Trump has never done that.

[ShockCrazy]

Ummm, no. I was around theough the eight years of Obama. I voted for him in 2008. I have yet to ever vote for Trump. When Obama got off script, he was lost until the teleprompter was fixed. Remember the Special Olympics comment?

I don't think that makes Obama dimb, far from it. I'm just pointing out that those throwing stones at Trump for being a poor speaker are giving Obama a free pass for the same shortcoming.

Hilarious irony I voted for neither Obama or Trump. I don't particularly like Obama's policies, but I respect the man, and while he may stammer at times, he could put together coherent arguments I could evaluate on their merits. I have seen absolutely no evidence of that from the Trump of the past few years. At one point he was a coherent functional speaker, but that time has past, age has taken it's toll, and he seriously speaks at a very rudimentary level.

[SB Shock]

I have seen absolutely no evidence of that from the Trump of the past few years. At one point he was a coherent functional speaker, but that time has past, age has taken it's toll, and he seriously speaks at a very rudimentary level.

Did you not catch his speech with Panama leader....It was classic.

The Panama Canal is doing quite well, I think we did a good job building it, right?

We just need to slap some TESLA solar panels on the canal and the Panama Canal will be great again.

https://www.tesla.com/solarpanels

[Aargh]

I haven't followed all of these special elections, but from the bits and pieces I've picked up, it seems that the Republican wins were in places where Republicans had historically easily won elections. If that is actually the case, I can't see it as a "win, win, win" situation. It's more like a "we survived" situation.

If the other elections were like the Estes/Thompson election in Kansas, where Republicans have typically won that district by 30% margins, and won this time by a much smaller margin, that's not really a "win" for Republicans. It won't give much hope to those running in districts that are historically more closely contested.

[ShockTalk]

I haven't followed all of these special elections, but from the bits and pieces I've picked up, it seems that the Republican wins were in places where Republicans had historically easily won elections. If that is actually the case, I can't see it as a "win, win, win" situation. It's more like a "we survived" situation.

If the other elections were like the Estes/Thompson election in Kansas, where Republicans have typically won that district by 30% margins, and won this time by a much smaller margin, that's not really a "win" for Republicans. It won't give much hope to those running in districts that are historically more closely contested.

I don't have the numbers, but it's my understanding that Trump narrowly won Georgia's 6th. That's why the Dems had high hopes and looked at it as a big prize.

[pinstripers]

All the Dems had to do was run a candidate who lived in the district and who talked about jobs.

[Aargh]

All the Dems had to do was run a candidate who lived in the district and who talked about jobs.

The Dems have been incredibly incompetent at running campaigns lately.

[pinstripers]

Depends whether you want to win, or want to lecture. It ain't that tough.

[wufan]

The Dems have been incredibly incompetent at running campaigns lately.

Maybe it's because they sabotage their own? Maybe it's because they hate privledged people more than they care about oppressed people? Bernie supporters will agree with me on the former. The latter is my take based on neo-Marxist idealism that has propogated the far left.

[ShockingButTrue]

[wu_shizzle]

The Dems have been incredibly incompetent at running campaigns lately.

While spending record amounts of cash.

Yep, that's a great indicator of good governance.