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A third party canidate has a chance to win a State. No, it isn't Johnson or Stien. Recent polling in Utah has Clinton and Trump tied with 26 percent. Evan McMullen has 22 percent. Did I spell his name right?

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A third party canidate has a chance to win a State. No, it isn't Johnson or Stien. Recent polling in Utah has Clinton and Trump tied with 26 percent. Evan McMullen has 22 percent. Did I spell his name right?

Close. Evan McMullin.

Here is an article on that poll.

If he can pull it off, and it is not beyond the realm of possibility, he would be the 1st third party candidate to win electoral college votes since George Wallace in 1968. Even Ross Perot failed to win any electoral college votes.

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As exciting as McMullin winning a state and earning the right to be the Pres elected by Congress if both Hillary and Trump fall short of 270 electoral votes might sound at first, I can't see how it is even possible to become a reality.

1) Hillary has to fall short of 270. Utah is deep red territory. Utah going to McMullin costs her nothing unexpected.
2) Trump is collapsing in big states like Florida and Ohio, and there is no chance McMullin wins any of those.

Hillary is pretty much guaranteed 270 now. The only question is how far she exceeds that threshold, and how Trump/McMullin divide up the scraps.

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As exciting as McMullin winning a state and earning the right to be the Pres elected by Congress if both Hillary and Trump fall short of 270 electoral votes might sound at first, I can't see how it is even possible to become a reality.

1) Hillary has to fall short of 270. Utah is deep red territory. Utah going to McMullin costs her nothing unexpected.
2) Trump is collapsing in big states like Florida and Ohio, and there is no chance McMullin wins any of those.

Hillary is pretty much guaranteed 270 now. The only question is how far she exceeds that threshold, and how Trump/McMullin divide up the scraps.

Agreed. This might have been a possible scenario for either Johnson or McMullin when the race had narrowed heading into the 1st Presidential Debate but now that Hillary's lead has widened to its widest margin to date it is unlikely that Hillary will not reach 270.

I like McMullin. Unfortunately, he came to the game so late he is at a real disadvantage. He is on the ballot in only 11 states and qualifies was a write-in candidate in 23 other states. Also, he and Johnson are very similar in their fiscal and foreign policy views primarily diverging on social issues. McMullin is IMHO more articulate than Johnson and more comfortable in front of a mic. So he and Johnson may simply split the anti-ClinTrump vote in the 11 states where they will both be on the ballot.

If McMullin had been the Republican nominee he probably would be a very credible candidate. Here is the McMullin webiste.

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I'll almost certainly be writing in McMullin and although he has no shot at winning the presidency, as noted by JH4P and '72 above, I would be very excited if he could win Utah (or any other state) for the significance of showing that a sizable contingent of conservatives and/or Republicans are not willing to fall in line with Trump's vision for the GOP.

Hillary is a near shoe-in at this point. The battle for the shape of the loyal opposition will remain ongoing after November 8, however, and I want the movement/commerce conservative wings of the party to have as much support as possible in that fight.