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Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
But who is creating these conspiracy theory pictures that rely on false information? Basically nothing in that picture is true. The guy was not the lead attorney on the case. John Ashe wasn't scheduled to testify against Hillary Clinton. The first guy wasn't going to go meet with the FBI.
Spreading false information doesn't help anyone's case. Other than whoever creates the pictures. That's the line of business I should've gotten into.
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The AP has released a story on Hillary that to meet with her as Secretary State - it was "Pay to Play".
More than half the people outside the government who met with Hillary Clinton while she was secretary of state gave money — either personally or through companies or groups — to the Clinton Foundation. It's an extraordinary proportion indicating her possible ethics challenges if elected president.
At least 85 of 154 people from private interests who met or had phone conversations scheduled with Clinton while she led the State Department donated to her family charity or pledged commitments to its international programs, according to a review of State Department calendars released so far to The Associated Press. Combined, the 85 donors contributed as much as $156 million. At least 40 donated more than $100,000 each, and 20 gave more than $1 million.
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Originally posted by jdshock View PostThese things always drive me crazy. There are a million reasons not to vote for Hillary Clinton. There are a million reasons to think she's corrupt or has gotten away with illegal acts.
But who is creating these conspiracy theory pictures that rely on false information? Basically nothing in that picture is true. The guy was not the lead attorney on the case. John Ashe wasn't scheduled to testify against Hillary Clinton. The first guy wasn't going to go meet with the FBI.
Spreading false information doesn't help anyone's case. Other than whoever creates the pictures. That's the line of business I should've gotten into.
Anyway, lots and lots of suspicious deaths DO occur when the Clintons are in office, or running. Correlation? Causation? Who knows. What we do know is that these kind of suspicious deaths haven't occured near the Obama camp, they didn't occur around the W camp, or within or around 41's camp. Reagan, nope. Carter, nope, Ford, nope. Not even Nixon.
Bill Clinton, yup. Hillary, already four.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I'm not going to ignore a trend, either. The interesting thing about Seth Rich is that he was a huge voter rights advocate, was known to be a Bernie supporter, and is purportedly the information provider to wikileaks. In perfect fashion, the democratic party parlayed this murder for political gain. Debbie Wasserman Shultz hailed him as a great leader and hinted (incorrectly) that he was a Hillary supporter. Hillary, true to form used the death for sympathy points snd to advance her gun control platform. Interestingly enough, just about any reference to Seth Rich and Bernie Sanders has since been scrubbed. People within Omaha and the Creighton community know, but his family has clammed up, I don't blame them and my heart goes out to them.
Anyway, jumping to conspiracies is extreme, but to simply dismiss the coincidental nature is equally extreme.Last edited by MoValley John; August 24, 2016, 02:05 PM.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.
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Originally posted by MoValley John View PostActuually, the one guy was a Nebraska native, a Creighton grad and worked for the DNC. He was a proud liberal, a Bernie supporter and WAS in the process of whistle blowing. So...
Anyway, lots and lots of suspicious deaths DO occur when the Clintons are in office, or running. Correlation? Causation? Who knows. What we do know is that these kind of suspicious deaths haven't occured near the Obama camp, they didn't occur around the W camp, or within or around 41's camp. Reagan, nope. Carter, nope, Ford, nope. Not even Nixon.
Bill Clinton, yup. Hillary, already four.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I'm not going to ignore a trend, either. The interesting thing about Seth Rich is that he was a huge voter rights advocate, was known to be a Bernie supporter, and is purportedly the information provider to wikileaks. In perfect fashion, the democratic party parlayed this murder for political gain. Debbie Wasserman Shultz hailed him as a great leader and hinted (incorrectly) that he was a Hillary supporter. Hillary, true to form used the death for sympathy points snd to advance her gun control platform. Interestingly enough, just about any reference to Seth Rich and Bernie Sanders has since been scrubbed. People within Omaha and the Creighton community know, but his family has clammed up, I don't blame them and my heart goes out to them.
Anyway, jumping to conspiracies is extreme, but to simply dismiss the coincidental nature is equally extreme.
I take issue with these kinds of pictures that have some outlandish claim and rely on false information. It allows Hillary supporters to easily dismiss what is a serious accusation that does have grains of truth.
No reputable source has said he was meeting with the FBI. Julian Assange kind of/maybe hinted that he may have been a whistle-blower. Put that in the picture then! The other stuff I pointed out was obviously false. Just put the facts, and let the reader decide if there's a correlation.
I just hate that they make this wild claim and rely on false information. Hillary supporters don't get persuaded. Anti-Hillary folks were already on board. There's just no benefit from spreading those lies. And it's disappointing because there truly is something to talk about here.
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[QUOTE=MoValley John;667440]Actuually, the one guy was a Nebraska native, a Creighton grad and worked for the DNC. He was a proud liberal, a Bernie supporter and WAS in the process of whistle blowing. So...
Anyway, lots and lots of suspicious deaths DO occur when the Clintons are in office, or running. Correlation? Causation? Who knows. What we do know is that these kind of suspicious deaths haven't occured near the Obama camp, they didn't occur around the W camp, or within or around 41's camp. Reagan, nope. Carter, nope, Ford, nope. Not even Nixon.
Bill Clinton, yup. Hillary, already four.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I'm not going to ignore a trend, either. The interesting thing about Seth Rich is that he was a huge voter rights advocate, was known to be a Bernie supporter, and is purportedly the information provider to wikileaks. In perfect fashion, the democratic party parlayed this murder for political gain. Debbie Wasserman Shultz hailed him as a great leader and hinted (incorrectly) that he was a Hillary supporter. Hillary, true to form used the death for sympathy points snd to advance her gun control platform. Interestingly enough, just about any reference to Seth Rich and Bernie Sanders has since been scrubbed. People within Omaha and the Creighton community know, but his family has clammed up, I don't blame them and my heart goes out to them.
Anyway, jumping to conspiracies is extreme, but to simply dismiss the coincidental nature is equally extreme.[/QUOTE
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Originally posted by jdshock View PostI think my post was not clear.
I take issue with these kinds of pictures that have some outlandish claim and rely on false information. It allows Hillary supporters to easily dismiss what is a serious accusation that does have grains of truth.
No reputable source has said he was meeting with the FBI. Julian Assange kind of/maybe hinted that he may have been a whistle-blower. Put that in the picture then! The other stuff I pointed out was obviously false. Just put the facts, and let the reader decide if there's a correlation.
I just hate that they make this wild claim and rely on false information. Hillary supporters don't get persuaded. Anti-Hillary folks were already on board. There's just no benefit from spreading those lies. And it's disappointing because there truly is something to talk about here.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Trump supporter, and I will not be voting for him. I cant stand him, actually. I won't be voting for Hillary, either. I'm either going to write in someone, or leave the vote for president blank. All that said, there have been as many falsehoods floated in meme form about Trump, as Clinton. Possibly more. The lies are great. The vitriol is more intense. When was the last time you heard a member of the mainstream media intentonally mispronounce Clinton's name, I've heard it zero. I have heard media members "accidentally" pronounce Trump, Drumpf. This **** is so one sided it's not even funny.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.
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Originally posted by MoValley John View PostSo do you take issue with nude statues of Trump? Do you take issue with the Trump name calling, mischaractetizations? Do you take issue with the equally, or possibly moreso, inacurate Trump memes? How about the violence lashed out? How about the noise? Did you seed the Clinton ads during the Olympics? Talk about hatchet jobs!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Trump supporter, and I will not be voting for him. I cant stand him, actually. I won't be voting for Hillary, either. I'm either going to write in someone, or leave the vote for president blank. All that said, there have been as many falsehoods floated in meme form about Trump, as Clinton. Possibly more. The lies are great. The vitriol is more intense. When was the last time you heard a member of the mainstream media intentonally mispronounce Clinton's name, I've heard it zero. I have heard media members "accidentally" pronounce Trump, Drumpf. This **** is so one sided it's not even funny.
Now you've opened the real can of worms (not that I would ever refer to the media as worms, but I just did!). The AP took Trump's comment that Hillary did not have the stamina to be president and they turned it into a gender-discrimination argument. They totally ignored that she has had trouble climbing steps, has to sit down at speeches and has to hold on to tables and chairbacks to maintain her balance on various home visits."I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
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Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
"We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".
A physician called into a radio show and said:
"That's the definition of a stool sample."
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Originally posted by MoValley John View PostSo do you take issue with nude statues of Trump? Do you take issue with the Trump name calling, mischaractetizations? Do you take issue with the equally, or possibly moreso, inacurate Trump memes? How about the violence lashed out? How about the noise? Did you seed the Clinton ads during the Olympics? Talk about hatchet jobs!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Trump supporter, and I will not be voting for him. I cant stand him, actually. I won't be voting for Hillary, either. I'm either going to write in someone, or leave the vote for president blank. All that said, there have been as many falsehoods floated in meme form about Trump, as Clinton. Possibly more. The lies are great. The vitriol is more intense. When was the last time you heard a member of the mainstream media intentonally mispronounce Clinton's name, I've heard it zero. I have heard media members "accidentally" pronounce Trump, Drumpf. This **** is so one sided it's not even funny.
I'm just kidding. To me there is a difference between typical name calling (which is maybe dumb and ineffective) and putting forth an argument and saying "I have four pieces of evidence to support that argument" but each of those pieces of evidence is fake. I think the Hillary Clinton is corrupt argument is actually really, really good. I think when people use false evidence to support the claim, it ruins the argument! Just use the real evidence. So, to answer your question, as much as supporters of both political parties do that, yes I take issue with it.
And I absolutely think Clinton supporters do it to Trump. It's one thing to call him out about all of the things he has 100% said, in front of a camera, but to act like we also know with 100% certainty what he has said behind closed doors is another thing. People (including me) love to call him bigoted, and they'll post all of his quotes. The articles also always include a comment Trump allegedly made about black people counting his money. Maybe he said it, maybe he didn't. But it's dishonest to act like we know with as much certainty as we do the other, recorded statements.
As a side note, the Drumpf thing is from a John Oliver bit. Trump's ancestors were named Drumpf and changed their name to Trump, or something, I don't remember. I think it's really dumb to call him Drumpf, and I think it's not persuasive at all. But maybe that shows I don't really know what I'm talking about. Maybe peopleare persuaded by these things. I just think the picture you shared is easier for a Hillary Clinton supporter to refute. And yes, I absolutely take issue with the nude statues of Trump and the drawings of Hillary Clinton, either nude or in a swimsuit or whatever. I don't want either of those pictures appearing on any kind of newsfeed of mine.
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Originally posted by SB Shock View PostThe AP has released a story on Hillary that to meet with her as Secretary State - it was "Pay to Play".
Hillary is going to be such damaged goods. I wonder if there has every been a president elected who had a special prosecutor named in the first 90 days.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/82df5...-met-her-state
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According to CNN Hillary used couldn't remember or couldn't recall 39 times during her FBI interview. Even MSM jumping on today's FBI release. This might narrow the race some more and help third party canidates.
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Originally posted by tropicalshox View PostAccording to CNN Hillary used couldn't remember or couldn't recall 39 times during her FBI interview. Even MSM jumping on today's FBI release. This might narrow the race some more and help third party canidates.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/02/the-5...ommentary.html
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