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    Arizona and Utah Up next
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      Updated delegate plot. There is no republican race - now it is a effort to split the vote and stop Trump. The dashed line is if each candidate won every primary on out. The delegate math is simply this:

      Trump - can get to the magic number if he get on a roll.
      Cruz - Can only get their if he wins out
      Kasich - Has no chance, his only roll is to ensure neither Trump or Cruz can win the nomination.




      So assuming that it will be a contested convention and the door is open to anybody - who is your choice for the Republican nomination?
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        Charles Barkley!
        Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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          Kasich should do the honorable thing. It's Cruz' only chance, now.
          Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
            Kasich should do the honorable thing. It's Cruz' only chance, now.
            I was wondering the same thing about Kasich - why would he continue to spend money in a lost cause. But when you really look at the numbers, nobody can win the nomination except for Trump. The reality is that Cruz has no shot whether Kasich is in or not. The whole gambit now is whether Cruz/Kasich can siphon off enough delegates to keep Trump from winning.

            So what deal did Kasich make?

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              The way I'm seeing the race right now is that Trump might be electable. Voters might prefer his warts to Hillary's. Trump won't be controlled by the those in power in the Republican party. So, to have a candidate more to the party's liking, they want Cruz to win the nomination, regardless of what is required to achieve that.

              Cruz is unelectable.

              All the Dems have to do is point out Cruz's attempts to shut the US government down. Then go the next step and say that if he tried to shut government down when he was in Congress, what would he do if he were Prez.

              Then the Republicans will come back with the argument that it was really Obama who was trying to shut the government down.

              I've got some bad news for that line of thinking. The voters have been hearing complaints about Obama for so long they are immune to it. Obama's approval rating is decent. Going after him might create backlash and cost the Republican candidate some votes.

              The same situation applies to Hillary. There have been so many Benghazi investigations with nothing found. The e-mail server thing has been beat to death. Her ties to Wall Street have been beat to death.

              The timing of the accusations against Hillary was horrible. It's been beat to death before the heat of the election. The voters have almost become immune to it. Hitting on those subjects will get a lot of rah-rah's from the core Republican voters, but those people were already going to vote for any Republican nominee. They don't need to be convinced.

              National elections are generally decided by those who aren't firmly committed to either party. I cannot imagine a worse strategy for appealing to those voters than what the Republicans are doing this year, or 4 years ago, or 8 years ago.
              Last edited by Aargh; March 30, 2016, 11:35 PM.
              The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
              We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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                Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
                So assuming that it will be a contested convention and the door is open to anybody - who is your choice for the Republican nomination?
                New York Police Commissioner Frank Reagan (Tom Selleck)

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                  Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post
                  New York Police Commissioner Frank Reagan (Tom Selleck)
                  My wife sends me to the couch when I make this or any other South Park reference...

                  78-65

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                    The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
                    We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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                      April 1-3 - ND - Convention (28)
                      April 5 - Wisconsin (42) - winner take all
                      April 8 - Colorado-district (15)
                      April 9 - Colorado - state (16)
                      April 14-16 - Wyoming - Convention (17)
                      April 19 - NY (95) - winner take most

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by WuShock16 View Post
                        My wife sends me to the couch when I make this or any other South Park reference...

                        http://www.hark.com/clips/vdzptcfhdj...ke-tom-selleck
                        Probably not the only time your better half sends you to the couch.

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                          Cruz gets 36 delegates from Wisconsin, Trump 6. Trumps margin to get the nomination is he needs 479 out of the next 851, or has a margin of 372 he can lose.
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                            Cruz is trying to convince Kasich to drop out so he doesn't steal any more delegates from him. Cruz can't win. But can cause an undecided convention.

                            I'm Republican, and I don't think Cruz has a chance at all of winning a presidential election.

                            This is just a train wreck.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rrshock View Post
                              Cruz is trying to convince Kasich to drop out so he doesn't steal any more delegates from him. Cruz can't win. But can cause an undecided convention.

                              I'm Republican, and I don't think Cruz has a chance at all of winning a presidential election.

                              This is just a train wreck.
                              Cruz is a sneaky snake oil salesman. The epitome of a dirty politician. Got his chops by shutting the government down and refusing to take responsibility for it.

                              Telling Carson's supporters in Iowa that they needed to caucus for Cruz because Carson was dropping out of the race. Hiring a soft-porn actress to make a commercial for him (while simultaneously trying to appear as if he was an evangelical). Having to fire his campaign manager for being unethical. Calling out the people of New York (see how he's a distant third now?) for being liberal. Having NO senators 'on the record' supporting him (his peers don't like him).

                              So many ethical issues and campaign missteps. I would bet you that if he stays in politics another 20 or so years, his record will be worse than Hillary's. And his positions on many issues is very close to Trump. Even with all Trump's fibbing, I trust Trump more than Cruz. He's actually campaigning to fix some of what the establishment has done to the middle class. Cruz's wife works for Goldman. He got a bunch of money from Goldman, so he will be just as supportive of Goldman's business ventures as Hillary is.

                              I agree with you.

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