Super Tuesday 2.0

[SB Shock]

Don't expect many will be paying attention to this (at least real-time), but this could end some campaign (whether they know it not).

Ohio
Florida
NC
Missouri
Illinois

[JJClamdip]

Rubio hangs it up.

[SB Shock]

What is really intersting is the Republican establishment is deaf to the message that is being sent by those supporting Trump/Cruz. They don't care whether you like Trump or Cruz. They are pissed, they pissed at the Republican establshment, they are not going to accept the same-o-same-o. So if you don't want trump or Cruz to get the nomination then find a better alternative. For those thinking Kasich have a shot are delusional.

[SB Shock]

Trump wins Florida, NC and Illinois
Trump leads Cruz by 1% in Missouri with 99% in\
Kasich takes Ohio

Rubio is out

[shockmonster]

What is really intersting is the Republican establishment is deaf to the message that is being sent by those supporting Trump/Cruz. They don't care whether you like Trump or Cruz. They are pissed, they pissed at the Republican establshment, they are not going to accept the same-o-same-o. So if you don't want trump or Cruz to get the nomination then find a better alternative. For those thinking Kasich have a shot are delusional.

Just who is this Establishment? I've never given a contribution to a politician in my life but I continue to fall into a category that won't vote for Trump or Cruz. SB you are so typical of butt hurt Republicans that try to continue to put all Republicans in a neat little "BOX". There are a lot of us who don't fit your "box" but still won't vote for either Cruz or Trump.

[SB Shock]

Just who is this Establishment?

Umm, the present republican leaders such as McConnell, political insiders, the moderate to liberal wing of the republican party. You know the guys in charge who really want to be democrats but still want to keep their power.

SB you are so typical of butt hurt Republicans that try to continue to put all Republicans in a neat little "BOX". There are a lot of us who don't fit your "box" but still won't vote for either Cruz or Trump.

Actually, I don't care who you vote for. My faith is not in a party or a man - I'm well beyond that. I actually do find this year election pretty entertaining and am enjoying the ride watching the republican party implode and ignore all the exit polling telling them why Trump is winning because it doesn't fit their narrative.

[shockmonster]

I actually do find this year election pretty entertaining and am enjoying the ride watching the republican party implode and ignore all the exit polling telling them why Trump is winning because it doesn't fit their narrative.

While you are being entertained, our grandkids will pay for not solving problems.

There used to be just a few but there are lot your cohorts and other people (whose beliefs are either a match with yours or who are not far off) who are collecting and storing food, guns, etc. to attack in a fight to the death because they are predicting a civil war. While I know some of them, I don't gather and congregate with them like you probably do. These people concern me.

[im4wsu]

While you are being entertained, our grandkids will pay for not solving problems.

There used to be just a few but there are lot your cohorts and other people (whose beliefs are either a match with yours or who are not far off) who are collecting and storing food, guns, etc. to attack in a fight to the death because they are predicting a civil war. While I know some of them, I don't gather and congregate with them like you probably do. These people concern me.

So exactly what is you vision for the country?
How close do you think we are to that vision at the present time?
How close do you believe the current Washington DC can get us to your vision?
Who do you see championing that vision in the future?
What belief(s) or ideal(s) do you consider worth defending?

Your answers to these questions will aid my deciding whether to fear you, support you are retire to the coast of South America.

[SB Shock]

While you are being entertained, our grandkids will pay for not solving problems.

Hillary will solve all your problems - she has promised.

There used to be just a few but there are lot your cohorts and other people (whose beliefs are either a match with yours or who are not far off) who are collecting and storing food, guns, etc. to attack in a fight to the death because they are predicting a civil war. While I know some of them, I don't gather and congregate with them like you probably do. These people concern me.

SM you are so typical of butt hurt Republicans that try to continue to put all Republicans in a neat little "BOX"

[Kung Wu]

We need more lawyers and guys spending their entire careers as politicians running this country! It works so well!

[shockmonster]

SM you are so typical of butt hurt Republicans that try to continue to put all Republicans in a neat little "BOX"

Actually, I did put anyone who believes like you that a bomb needs to be dropped. You and I probably agree on some things like Special Interests have too much power and that Wall Street does what they want. We probably also agree that time limits would be best. But the courts decided against that.

However, I doubt that we agree with how a democracy works. Democracy is not pretty or efficient (dictatorships and authoritarian governments are-Trump appears to me to be this type of leader). The 3 branches of government have checks and balances on each. While our form of government isn't perfect, it is the best that has ever been in the history of mankind.

Please name me another government that has ever been better in the history of mankind.

[SB Shock]

Actually, I did put anyone who believes like you that a bomb needs to be dropped.

We have the problems we have now because every day we move farther and farther from the foundations that our founding fathers built this country on.

However, I doubt that we agree with how a democracy works.

WOW, you are full of yourself. A democracy is simple majority vote. One person, one vote. Democracies historically also degenerate into either aristocracy or oligarchy (rule by few) where the people feel disfranchised and no longer participate (sound like something we are seeing happen with our country).

The U.S. is not a democracy. It is a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.

Democracy is not pretty or efficient (dictatorships and authoritarian governments are-Trump appears to me to be this type of leader).

DEMOCRACY according to Madison is

"...democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

Our founders knew that democracy is the worst form of government. Our government in more detailed form can be described as a EXTENDED LIMITED COMMERCIAL FEDERAL REPUBLIC (ref federalist papers).

Extended - refers to the geographic expanse the nation would cover.
Limited - Constitution provides distinct limitations of what and what not our government can do\
Commercial - refers to our national character. The founders said our national character was founded on: marital, religious and commercial (which are all under attack)
Federal - the power of our nation was to be preserved by the people, and the federal government only existed for specific and limited purpose.
Democracy - referred to social democracy and not government democracy. Social democracy is the concept that we are all created equal and no other individual is better than another and everybody has an equal opportunity to succeed.


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[shockmonster]

We have the problems we have now because every day we move farther and farther from the foundations that our founding fathers built this country on.



WOW, you are full of yourself. A democracy is simple majority vote. One person, one vote. Democracies historically also degenerate into either aristocracy or oligarchy (rule by few) where the people feel disfranchised and no longer participate (sound like something we are seeing happen with our country).

The U.S. is not a democracy. It is a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.



DEMOCRACY according to Madison is

"...democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

Our founders knew that democracy is the worst form of government. Our government in more detailed form can be described as a EXTENDED LIMITED COMMERCIAL FEDERAL REPUBLIC (ref federalist papers).

Extended - refers to the geographic expanse the nation would cover.
Limited - Constitution provides distinct limitations of what and what not our government can do\
Commercial - refers to our national character. The founders said our national character was founded on: marital, religious and commercial (which are all under attack)
Federal - the power of our nation was to be preserved by the people, and the federal government only existed for specific and limited purpose.
Democracy - referred to social democracy and not government democracy. Social democracy is the concept that we are all created equal and no other individual is better than another and everybody has an equal opportunity to succeed.


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You are smarter than I thought. You are right. Democracy is a generic term used to describe a government by the people. You and I believe in constitutional republics. We have to remember that Germany also had a constitutional republic. Trump may be more into the Germanic authoritarian form of republic. Thats why he worries me. He has no filter, values, or morals to what he believes. Up to now, it has appeared to me that Republican candidates had these qualities. The Democrats for quite a while (since Daniel Moynahan) have not even tried to act like they believed in qualities of morality.

[Kung Wu]

You are smarter than I thought.

Why would you assume otherwise?

We have to remember that Germany also had a constitutional republic. Trump may be more into the Germanic authoritarian form of republic. Thats why he worries me.

It's difficult to take you serious here. Are you really trying to draw some equivalence between Trump and Hitler?

He has no filter, values, or morals to what he believes. Up to now, it has appeared to me that Republican candidates had these qualities.

No filter: true
No values: huh?
No morals: huh?

How do you substantiate the "no values" and "no morals" claims?

[Play Angry]

It kills me when the same people who (correctly) attacked the Clintons' morality vacuum for decades play retarded when it comes to Trump's renowned marital infidelities and career.

It's not exactly news that the guy is a piece of ****. If you vote for him in spite of it, that is certainly your right, but just be honest that you are cool with ceding the right's traditional claim to the moral high ground in exchange for a dude who tells you he can stuff done because he's a "winner."

The right is castrating the legacy of Ronald Reagan and William F. Buckley in favor of a fearmonger reality star.