New Hampshire Primary Results

[SB Shock]

Sanders and Trump expected to win - now we wait to see if it will it be decisive victory or not?

[SB Shock]

ABC just called it for Bernie Sanders as the polls close.

[SB Shock]

ABC called it for Trump. Now we wait to see margins and if somebody can knock out Bush and Christie from the race.

[SB Shock]

[tropicalshox]

A little over half way through, Sanders is up by 20 percent.

[SB Shock]

with 50% in

Trump 34%
Kasich 16%
Cruz 12%
Bush 11%
Rubio 11%
Christie 8%
Fiorino 4%
Carson 2%

and everybody says they are not dropping out.

[SB Shock]

Christie returning to NJ to do his laundray and take a deep breath.

[tropicalshox]

When Chris Matthews says Bernie Sanders is a power house and he's not for sure if Clinton can stop him, Hillary is in big trouble.

[SB Shock]

[Dave Stalwart]

I had a friend say something to the effect of "Hillary is such a weak candidate that her party is seriously considering socialism as an alternative"

It was never that Bernie was a formidable opponent. This is all just the result of her not being a very compelling option. The establishment is pulling a John McCain here, getting behind someone who doesn't have it. People love Bernie because he's so genuine and that's enough when your other option is someone who quite literally may get indicted.

As a result, the democrat party is considering socialism...

What's interesting to me as a republican is how defeatable both of these candidates will be. Hillarys record can be absolutely shredded, and Bernies socialism can easily be challenged as well. It's going to be very interesting to see what happens. Republicans need to vet the heck out of their candidates, get the RIGHT nominee and bring it on.

[im4wsu]

Christie returning to NJ to do his laundray and take a deep breath.

Don't know if this is true, but this link https://thehornnews.com/10982-2/ says that due to superdelegates, Hillary leaves two more delegates than Sanders. She had something like 389 delegates in the bank before the first caucus/primary voter even showed up.

[jdshock]

Don't know if this is true, but this link https://thehornnews.com/10982-2/ says that due to superdelegates, Hillary leaves two more delegates than Sanders. She had something like 389 delegates in the bank before the first caucus/primary voter even showed up.

That site is obviously using inflammatory language, but it's definitely true. Bernie is up 34 to 32 in "won" delegates but Hillary is up 394 to 42 total. It's a weird quirk of the primary schedule. The popular vote winner might not get the nomination. I think there are roughly 1/3 of the total delegates that are "super delegates" and roughly half have committed to Hillary so far. Assuming the vast majority go to Hillary (which I think most people think is likely), Bernie will have to win the primaries by a lot to take home the nomination.

[Play Angry]

Hillary's pledged superdelegates are not etched in stone - she had a colossal number of them in 2008 who later switched to team Obama as the primaries played out.

[tropicalshox]

That site is obviously using inflammatory language, but it's definitely true. Bernie is up 34 to 32 in "won" delegates but Hillary is up 394 to 42 total. It's a weird quirk of the primary schedule. The popular vote winner might not get the nomination. I think there are roughly 1/3 of the total delegates that are "super delegates" and roughly half have committed to Hillary so far. Assuming the vast majority go to Hillary (which I think most people think is likely), Bernie will have to win the primaries by a lot to take home the nomination.

I wouldn't call it a weird quirk. The Democratic Party set this up after McGovern's loss, I beleive. It's purpose is to keep the Party's platform and Presidential canidate in an acceptable range to the Party's elites and elected officials.

[MoValley John]

I wouldn't call it a weird quirk. The Democratic Party set this up after McGovern's loss, I beleive. It's purpose is to keep the Party's platform and Presidential canidate in an acceptable range to the Party's elites and elected officials.

But if Bernie gets a big lead and the superdelegates dont fall in line with the will of the people, it could be catastrophic to the party.