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  • #91
    I would be more inclined to look at their issue by a peaceful protest without guns.
    In the fast lane

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    • #92
      Originally posted by tropicalshox View Post
      I would be more inclined to look at their issue by a peaceful protest without guns.
      I would be more inclined to arrrest the protesters, then look into the reasons why they are so upset. If we refuse to look at grievences, simply because the grievences weren't presented in a lawful, orderly fashion, nothing wrong would change. Arrest the protesters, look into the claims.
      There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by tropicalshox View Post
        I would be more inclined to look at their issue by a peaceful protest without guns.
        I assume you read up on it during the peaceful legal actions of the past 10 years?
        Livin the dream

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        • #94
          The only times I knew about it, guns were involved. The incident with Bundy's father and some place out West that land management officals had their homes shot at.
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          • #95
            Originally posted by tropicalshox View Post
            The only times I knew about it, guns were involved. The incident with Bundy's father and some place out West that land management officals had their homes shot at.
            I think that's the issue. The peaceful stuff doesn't get anyone's attention to look into the issue.

            I do not condone armed takeovers BTW.
            Livin the dream

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            • #96
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              • #97
                If this had been a black man, with an extensive criminal background, shot by government agents at a roadblock it would be a media circus! There would be Hollywood actors, professional athletes, politicians and activist leaders in front of every microphone they could find! There would be riots in the streets. But that's not what is happening! This was a white rancher standing up to a tyrannical government agency shot dead in the street. By all accounts he was a good man, husband, father and foster parent who refused to allow his government to run fellow ranchers from their land.
                Where are the cries for justice? Where are the riots?

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                • #98
                  The Bureau of Land Management is in the process of stealing another ranchers land. Tommy Henderson has been fighting the BLM for over 30 years and states “How can BLM come in and say, ‘Hey, this isn’t yours’?” Henderson asked. “… Our family paid taxes for over 100 years on this place. We’ve got a deed to it. But yet they walked in and said it wasn’t ours?” BLM uses the fact that the border between Texas and Oklahoma, which is the Red River, constantly changes, to claim the land. They have already seized 140 acres of land, now they are trying to seize 90,000 acres and substantially change the border between the two states. “Originally, here the river was out there where it is now and it eroded and accreted up to here, and then it eroded and accreted back. Well, interpretation is that it eroded up to here but avulsed back. So when you listen to them it is always erosion to the south because the property line follows it then, but it’s always avulsion when it goes north. So the boundary can move south but it can never move back north," states Henderson. “We have numerous places that have been in our family for over a hundred of years, and you hate to see land that people’s worked hard for would lose. As producers we are always on a defense. We have to make decisions to try to help ourselves to help one another.”

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                  • #99
                    I've only heard one side of the story, but if that's the whole truth, it's indefensible.
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                    • Originally posted by wufan View Post
                      I've only heard one side of the story, but if that's the whole truth, it's indefensible.
                      There is some truth to it. I've also read about it. I will try to find a more unbiased link. The BLM isn't all bad, there are good, honest people there, but...
                      There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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                      • I have close relatives that live in rural Alaska, including immediate family. Everything runs through the BLM. Everything. After the homestead act, the remaining land was divied up between the state, federal, and Native governments. The native and federal govt's chose first and the rest went to the state. Both were allotted so many acres and grabbed something like 30% more than they were supposed to. Now they have to turn that extra back to the people and they have been doing it very quietly through small auctions.
                        The BLM is one of the most corrupt branches of government because there is little oversight.
                        People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -Isaac Asimov

                        Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded
                        Who else posts fake **** all day in order to maintain the acrimony? Wingnuts, that's who.

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                        • The problem with identifying the problems within the BLM is that, on the whole, the BLM does not intrude on that many people's lives. And most of the people that they plod over are conservative landowners, that when they do complain, are labeled kooks. Some are, most aren't. So, we simply ignore the cries of these right wing "kooks" BLM policies stay in place. They have, however, pissed off the left at times, callously slaughtering wild horses pisses off the left, but those actions are somewhat rare.
                          There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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                          • The Supreme Court says the Clean Water Act is not a grant of federal control over every stream and depression in the nation. The EPA says otherwise.

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                            • Since a good part of the discussion on this thread centered around my incorrect use of the jack Mormons (who are actually the Fundamental Later Day Saints) and their connection to LeVoy Finnicum (since he lived in Hildale, Arizona area) and the Bundy clan, I thought I would share this article.

                              FLDS raided for food stamp fraud:

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