Hillary Receive a Pardon from Obama if She is Indicted

[Shocker1976]

With the FBI recovering Hillary's deleted emails and the State Department beginning to distance itself from Hillary, prompts the question:

Will Obama pardon Hillary if she is indicted for criminally mishandling classified documents?

IMHO a pardon is the most likely outcome if an indictment is in her future.

[pinstripers]

With the FBI recovering Hillary's deleted emails and the State Department beginning to distance itself from Hillary, prompts the question:

Will Obama pardon Hillary if she is indicted for criminally mishandling classified documents?

IMHO a pardon is the most likely outcome if an indictment is in her future.

Obama hates her more than I do. Money talks however, and the foundation will pay.

[SB Shock]

Will the pardon come before or after she drops out of the presidential race?

[wu_shizzle]

I would guess the Foundation would be willing to pay more after the President leaves office if HRC is not indicted rather than allow it and then pardon.

I'm sure negotiations are under way.

[WuDrWu]

Obama hates her more than I do.

Oh come on now.....MORE? lol

[im4wsu]

Can Obama pardon sombody before indictment? Before conviction? It may take a long time before anything actually is finalized. I suppose he could pardon her for "any and all actions taken or not taken in the past," or could even specifically put a timeframe on it. But it would seem strange for a pardon to say "the pardon applies to anything you may have done wrong."

[SB Shock]

The narrative coming out this weekend is -

She’s too big to jail,” said national security attorney Edward MacMahon Jr., who represented former CIA employee Jeffrey Sterling in 2011 in a leak case that led to an espionage prosecution and 3½-year prison term. He cited a pattern of light punishments for top government officials who have mishandled classified information while lower level whistleblowers such as Sterling have faced harsh prosecutions for revealing sensitive information to expose waste, fraud or abuse in government.

Kind of reminds me of Animal Farm -
“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”- George Orwell

[pogo]

Can she give a pardon to herself if for some reason she were to actually become president.

[Kung Wu]

Can she give a pardon to herself if for some reason she were to actually become president.

I bet she could negotiate a pardon swap with Obama prior to him leaving. Obama pardons her. She'll pardon Eric Holder if he is in the cross hairs after Obama's term, which allows Holder to deny 'til his grave that Obama was involved in anything.

[SB Shock]

A set of Hillary emails were just released under FOIA. In one of them Clinton instructed an aide to remove the classification marking from information, a federal offense.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article53685825.html

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/13/official-clinton-inner-circle-may-have-stripped-email-classification-markings.html

[WuDrWu]

A set of Hillary emails were just released under FOIA. In one of them Clinton instructed an aide to remove the classification marking from information, a federal offense.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article53685825.html

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...-markings.html

I read both articles, and I didn't see anything about one of the emails instructing an aide to remove the classified marking.

If that indeed happened, it seems that finding the sent email to whomever "unclassified" it can't be that hard.

[SB Shock]

I read both articles, and I didn't see anything about one of the emails instructing an aide to remove the classified marking.

If that indeed happened, it seems that finding the sent email to whomever "unclassified" it can't be that hard.

Well here is the hard copy of the email and stories from additional sites.

On the June 17, 2011, email chain with senior State Department adviser Jake Sullivan, Clinton apparently asked Sullivan to change the marking on classified information so that it is no longer flagged as classified.

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/smoking-gun-email-suggests-hillary-committed-a-crime/

Has the State Department released a smoking gun in the Hillary Clinton e-mail scandal? In a thread from June 2011, Hillary exchanges e-mails with Jake Sullivan, then her deputy chief of staff and now her campaign foreign-policy adviser, in which she impatiently waits for a set of talking points. When Sullivan tells her that the source is having trouble with the secure fax, Hillary then orders Sullivan to have the data stripped of its markings and sent through a non-secure channel.
That should be game, set, and match, yes?

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/08/whoa-hillary-e-mail-instructs-aide-to-transmit-classified-e-mail-without-markings/

A year before Hillary Clinton apparently asked one of her top aides to remove the classification markings from a sensitive document and send it to her over an unsecured network, she pushed the same aide to remove a different document from the State Department's classified system and email it to her without markings.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/clinton-asked-aide-to-remove-classified-markings-more-than-once/article/2579993

Hillary Clinton told a State Department aide to send her information using “nonsecure” channels, according to an exchange included in a batch of emails released by the agency Friday.
In the June 2011 email exchange, Jake Sullivan, then-Secretary Clinton’s deputy chief of staff, discussed forthcoming “TPs,” appearing to refer to talking points, that Clinton was waiting to receive.
“They say they’ve had issues sending secure fax. They’re working on it,” Sullivan wrote of the forthcoming information in an email dated June 17, 2011.

“If they can’t, turn it into nonpaper [with] no identifying heading and send nonsecure,” Clinton wrote Sullivan in response the same day.

http://freebeacon.com/politics/hillary-clinton-told-aide-to-send-info-using-nonsecure-channels/

[SB Shock]

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1)concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or

(2)concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or

(3)concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or

(4)obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

(b)As used in subsection (a) of this section—The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.

(c)Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.

(d)(1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law—
(A)any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and


(B)any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.

(2)The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).

(3) Except as provided in paragraph (4), the provisions of subsections (b), (c), and (e) through (p) of section 413 of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 (21 U.S.C. 853(b), (c), and (e)–(p)), shall apply to—
(A)property subject to forfeiture under this subsection;

(B)any seizure or disposition of such property; and

(C)any administrative or judicial proceeding in relation to such property,

if not inconsistent with this subsection.

(4)Notwithstanding section 524(c) of title 28, there shall be deposited in the Crime Victims Fund established under section 1402 of the Victims of Crime Act of 1984 (42 U.S.C. 10601) all amounts from the forfeiture of property under this subsection remaining after the payment of expenses for forfeiture and sale authorized by law.

(5)As used in this subsection, the term “State” means any State of the United States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and any territory or possession of the United States.

(Added Oct. 31, 1951, ch. 655, § 24(a), 65 Stat. 719; amended Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147; Pub. L. 103–359, title VIII, § 804(a), Oct. 14, 1994, 108 Stat. 3439; Pub. L. 104–294, title VI, § 602(c), Oct. 11, 1996, 110 Stat. 3503.)

[SB Shock]

"I fully complied by every rule that I was governed by,” (March 7, 2015)


Hillary Clinton (July 15, 2015)

"I am confident that I never sent nor received any information that was classified at the time it was sent and received," Clinton told reporters in Winterset, Iowa.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/25/politics/clinton-confident-never-sent-classified-emails/index.html

[MoValley John]

None of this matters. It's a race between Hillary and Trump. Either one could commit murder and still be their party's nominee.

We hammer the highly ethical and these two get a free pass.

We get what we deserve.