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Keep in mind that Erdogan is Ottoman Turkish which is read right to left. So ... Erdogan spelled backwards is "nagodre" which I believe is from Olde English "Nag Odre" which in modern English would be "nag odor" and thus can be translated as "smelly wife". Definitely Islamist. Now as far as being Sunny -- I suppose. Turkeys aren't really noted for being nocturnal. I think it's far fetched to think they don't like cottage cheese though, but somewhat in support of your assertion, they do probably prefer small Kurd regardless whether you cook them in a rack or with syriup(sp?).Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille! -
I would had a third option, carpet bombing.Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
The problem is this delay has allowed ISIS to redeploy their forces to wait out the pending air strikes. After the a period time following the air strikes they will reassemble. This isn't to mean they are inactive only that they are operating in smaller groups.“Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor JonesComment
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For the Dick Cheney tin-foil hat wearing crowd......a former state department official says that ISIS will hit us from Venezuela:
I think this is about as far-fetched as it gets, but I'm putting it out here for consumption and comment.
I would discount this a ton. Venezuela, like most of Latin America, is Roman Catholic. They have an open dialogue with Iran, but a nexus between a nation of Catholics and a nation of Muslims just seems too far-fetched to me, even with all the drug-running and desperation currently enveloping Venezuela.Comment
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From what I recall, the only person that has mentioned Dick Cheney in this entire thread is you. And you have done it at least twice now. This time you not only mention him but you post a link with a quasi-implication that somehow Cheney is pushing some bunk theory that's absurd. Yet the article doesn't mention Cheney at all, and doesn't have a single thing to do with him, but it does in fact indicate that U.S. security agencies under Obama's watch is surfacing this theory:Originally posted by shocka khan View PostFor the Dick Cheney tin-foil hat wearing crowd......a former state department official says that ISIS will hit us from Venezuela:
I think this is about as far-fetched as it gets, but I'm putting it out here for consumption and comment.
I would discount this a ton. Venezuela, like most of Latin America, is Roman Catholic. They have an open dialogue with Iran, but a nexus between a nation of Catholics and a nation of Muslims just seems too far-fetched to me, even with all the drug-running and desperation currently enveloping Venezuela.
That is one clunky straw man argument.Noriega said U.S. security agencies in the last 8 to 12 months have “started to see this is a threat of a group that wants to reach into the United States.”Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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I guess you're part of the 'tin-foil hat crowd'. Sorry you can't read and discern that my point was that the theory of Venezuela sponsoring a terrorist attack on the US is pretty looney. I lump the Dickster in with those other loons who somehow think that Venezuela will sponsor a terrorist attack on us.
Your defense of Cheney is pretty amusing. Not that he doesn't have an obvious conflict of interest with all the contracts the now spun-off-from Haliburton Kellogg, Brown and Root had for logistics with the defense department.
And just for the record, here's the hogwash he's feeding congress, as reported from multiple sources.
According to CBS news.....
"United States must promptly move to get back on offense in the war on terror, former Vice President Dick Cheney said Wednesday":
"A day before President Barack Obama lays out his strategy to counter the ISIS terror threat, House Republicans sought the counsel of Dick Cheney, a key architect of the Iraq War"
I guess that war in Iraq worked out real well for us, especially the 2 trillion that didn't hit the budget until Obama moved it there.
But at least Rand Paul understands that Dick Cheney is guilty of professional malpractice:
Taking advice from Dick Cheney on how to fight a war is roughly equal to taking economic advice from Calvin Coolidge and Herbert Hoover.
BTW, you're welcome.Comment
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Originally posted by shocka khan View PostI guess you're part of the 'tin-foil hat crowd'. Sorry you can't read and discern that my point was that the theory of Venezuela sponsoring a terrorist attack on the US is pretty looney. I lump the Dickster in with those other loons who somehow think that Venezuela will sponsor a terrorist attack on us.
Your defense of Cheney is pretty amusing. Not that he doesn't have an obvious conflict of interest with all the contracts the now spun-off-from Haliburton Kellogg, Brown and Root had for logistics with the defense department.
And just for the record, here's the hogwash he's feeding congress, as reported from multiple sources.
According to CBS news.....
"United States must promptly move to get back on offense in the war on terror, former Vice President Dick Cheney said Wednesday":
"A day before President Barack Obama lays out his strategy to counter the ISIS terror threat, House Republicans sought the counsel of Dick Cheney, a key architect of the Iraq War"
I guess that war in Iraq worked out real well for us, especially the 2 trillion that didn't hit the budget until Obama moved it there.
But at least Rand Paul understands that Dick Cheney is guilty of professional malpractice:
Taking advice from Dick Cheney on how to fight a war is roughly equal to taking economic advice from Calvin Coolidge and Herbert Hoover.
BTW, you're welcome.
How in the hell did I defend Dick Cheney? You haven't even established what it is he said that I should be arguing with you about. You posted an article and basically said that anyone who believes Obama's US agency staff is a Cheney nut job. WTF!?!?Last edited by Kung Wu; September 15, 2014, 08:56 PM.Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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I saw the Dick Cheney, tinfoil, blah, blah, blah and just discarded everything else. You have to give him credit though, he hit Halliburton and a few other liberal buzzwords, too. Oh, he threw out the Catholics as well, I'm waiting for him to blame Bush for the ebola virus before a segue to Mormons and then Romney.Originally posted by Kung Wu View PostThere are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.Comment
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MoValleyJohn said.....
"I'm waiting for him to blame Bush for the ebola virus before a segue to Mormons and then Romney. "
Nah, Bush just crashed the economy and burned through a couple of trillion dollars trying to avenge his daddy's honor (and listening to Cheney's b.s.).
Romney might be responsible for Chickangunya fever, though, maybe his dad brought it back from Mexico when he left the Mormon settlement his granddaddy founded there.
I will observe this, though, you guys look like you vote a straight ticket. People who vote straight tickets are pretty dull.Comment
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If you ever read the old Valley Talk, you would know that I have never voted straight ticket in my life. I've also switched parties twice. I voted for Obama once and regret the **** out of it. I used to deride Ron Paul supporters, some of them were and still are, Shockernet posters. I now look back at that election and think I should have voted for Ron Paul instead. I was essentially throwing my vote away as I couldn't support McCain and thought Paul was a racist extremist.Originally posted by shocka khan View Post
I thought Obama would be a decent centrist Democrat. You know, campaign to your base and lead to the middle? I couldn't have been more wrong.
You just try to show everyone how "open minded" and progressive you are, all the while labeling and smearing people. The hypocrisy is hilarious.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.Comment
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I disregarded my own warning about the fallacy black hole with koo koo khan. I got sucked iiiiiin. Byyyyyyyye Shockkernneee . . . . . . . . . . .Originally posted by MoValley John View PostKung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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It is pretty freaking scary when the US & Iran can agree on a common enemy.
Here the Iranian President tells NBC's Ann Curry that "ISIS wants to kill humanity".“Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor JonesComment
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Where is the anti-war people standing up against the administration? ISIS is no different than Sadaam, in fact Sadaam did much worse.Comment
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I believe Saddam was a bad person, however he did nothing the likes of these people. I have refrained from posting any pics or videos because they are too graphic. Saddam and his henchmen did unspeakable things but ISIS is a whole new level of despicable slacking humanity.Originally posted by SB Shock View Post“Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor JonesComment
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I have seen the pics of the mass executions and beheading (oh thank you RDR). But I have also seen the news footage of the Halabja NBC attack on the Kurds that killed thousands that Saddam ordered.Originally posted by DUShock View Post
Saddam campaign of ethnic cleansing included:
Halabja - Chemical (5-10,000 killed
Anfal - Chemical/Execution (50,000 to 200,000 killed (estimated))
1991 - Executions after 1st Gulf War (20,000 - 100,000 kurds, 60,000 to 130,000 shia executed)
overall there are estimates between 250,000 to 1,000,000 people murder by Saddam and this doesn't include Iran/Iraq war.Comment
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