ISIS

[MoValley John]

Isis executed James Foley. Obama played golf. Muslims in Michigan said nothing about Foley's execution. Muslims in the Middle East were quiet. There was zero Muslim unrest over the brutal and unwarranted killing of James Foley. The only people that were truly upset were members of the press. The press hates it when one of there own gets killed. If James Foley was a private contractor, little would have been said- just another day in the Middle East.

Here is what I find comical. James Foley, although not a Muslim, was doing the work of Isis. He had their back. He was sympathetic to Isis and reported favorably for Isis. Isis didn't care. They had a smug, smarter than everyone else, liberal journalist in their corner and they killed him. Isis should be renamed Honeybadger.

The thing is, this happens all the time. Discos are bombed in Indonesia, kidnappings occur in the Philippines, buses are bombed in London and liberals get all smug and try to talk down to us about how Islam is no different than Christianity. People in Michigan know who the terrorists are. Not all Muslims in Michigan know, but enough do. The "peaceful" Muslims in Michigan do nothing. When it is convenient, Muslims will mow down anyone they deem an infidel. That includes liberal atheists that are sympathetic to their plight. And when they do, the Muslims in Michigan will say nothing and continue to fund their work.

[wufan]

http://civilusdefendus.wordpress.com...amic-conquest/

4 Stages of Islamic Conquest:

Stage 1: INFILTRATION
-Muslims begin moving to non-Muslim countries in increasing numbers and the beginning of cultural conflicts are visible, though often subtle.

Stage 2: CONSOLIDATION OF POWER
-Muslim immigrants and host country converts continue demands for accommodation in employment, education, social services, financing and courts.

Stage 3: OPEN WAR w/LEADERSHIP & CULTURE
-Open violence to impose Sharia law and associated cultural restrictions; rejection of host government, subjugation of other religions and customs.

STAGE 4: Totalitarian ISLAMIC "THEOCRACY"
-Islam becomes the only religious-political-judicial-cultural ideology.

This is exactly what is happening in Great Britain: http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/41...ation-britain#

This is exactly what is happening in Michigan: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2...merica-in-2013

WARNING: This information will infuriate the politically correct crowd on this fine forum but never the less is exactly what is happening across Europe and now underway in the United States.

That seems like a racist hate site on first blush, and I'm as conservative as they come.

[wufan]

Except its not actually a "few"

It's thousands. And the other millions who don't want to be grouped in with them are doing surprisingly little to speak against it.

There are thousands of Muslim terrorist groups?

[wufan]

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. -Edmond Burke

And here in lies the vast difference between Islam and Christianity. The "peaceful" Muslims do nothing. There is evil in Christianity, but Christian society is intolerant of the evil becoming a movement. There has been Christians persecuting Muslims- and other Christians in recent memory, Bosnia being a prime example. But when that does happen, Christians around the globe stop it. In fact, we can thank Bill Clinton for protecting Muslims in Bosnia.

Conversely, the "peaceful" Muslims don't have the sack, or they just don't care enough, to stop radical Islam. Islam isn't evil because all Muslims are evil, Islam is evil because in the face of evil, Islam allows evil to persist.

Should we start burning mosques and ban them from the US?

[JJClamdip]

Should we start burning mosques and ban them from the US?

It is a vile religion, and that sounds like a good start, after all they are are all followers of a pedophile child molester.

[MoValley John]

Should we start burning mosques and ban them from the US?

I never even said anything close to that. How do you make that leap? I'm simply identifying truths, not advocating any action or any solution. If we fail to see what is happening, and if we pretend what is happening in the Islam society is a moral equivalent to what is happening in Judeo - Christian society, we are fools. Yeah, you can deny it and make yourself feel compassionate with the feel good, they are peaceful people routine, but that doesn't change the fact that if you really believe that, just like James Foley, you are a fool.

[shoxplode]

Should we start burning mosques and ban them from the US?

Our government should not be making special concessions or accommodations toward Muslims.

[shoxplode]

That seems like a racist hate site on first blush, and I'm as conservative as they come.

A Muslim person is not a race of people so certainly not racist. One of the bullets that I posted mentions that being labeled an Islamophobe is akin to being a racist. Our media walks on egg shells when discussing this topic as to not "upset" the followers of this peaceful religion while excoriating Christianity all day long.

[wufan]

Our government should not be making special concessions or accommodations toward Muslims.

Agreed.

[wufan]

I never even said anything close to that. How do you make that leap? I'm simply identifying truths, not advocating any action or any solution. If we fail to see what is happening, and if we pretend what is happening in the Islam society is a moral equivalent to what is happening in Judeo - Christian society, we are fools. Yeah, you can deny it and make yourself feel compassionate with the feel good, they are peaceful people routine, but that doesn't change the fact that if you really believe that, just like James Foley, you are a fool.

My leap was logical. Your argument is this:

Muslims are bad.
Muslims are in our country.
The only thing that allows bad to happen is for "good men to do nothing."
Christians are good men.
Christians should seek to stop bad men.
Since Christians should stop Muslims, they should...what do you propose?

[wufan]

A Muslim person is not a race of people so certainly not racist. One of the bullets that I posted mentions that being labeled an Islamophobe is akin to being a racist. Our media walks on egg shells when discussing this topic as to not "upset" the followers of this peaceful religion while excoriating Christianity all day long.

That's a hate site. I would urge you not to get your information from there.

[shoxplode]

There are basically three types of people in society: Wolves, sheepdogs, and the sheep. The wolves outnumber the sheepdogs so tyranny prevails.

[MoValley John]

My leap was logical. Your argument is this:

Muslims are bad.
Muslims are in our country.
The only thing that allows bad to happen is for "good men to do nothing."
Christians are good men.
Christians should seek to stop bad men.
Since Christians should stop Muslims, they should...what do you propose?

My solution. Allow Muslims to immigrate, live among us, assimilate within our culture and practice their faith, peacefully. Simultaneously, cut off all ties with any nation that is associated with terrorism, harbors terrorists or funds terrorist activities. Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, on and on. I'm not talking economic sanctions, I'm not talking embargo, I'm talking total and complete separation. No economic aid, no humanitarian aid, no purchasing of any goods, oil included and no exports. Period. No mail, no air travel, no phone service, no Internet communications, no nothing.

Money transfers would be very difficult, communicating and promoting terrorism either in the US or in terrorist countries would get more difficult and it would force governments to actively hunt and eliminate terrorists within their borders. If it didn't eradicate much of the terrorism, it would at least insulate us from it. No mosque burnt and we didn't fire a shot.

[MoValley John]

Fair game question, what is your solution? Or since these are all trustworthy, peaceful people, we don't need a solution? Maybe we just need to try harder to understand them.

[MoValley John]

James Foley was beheaded. Instead of identifying the pattern of violence, we need to be more open, more kind, more generous and simply try harder to understand the peaceful, loving Muslims.


Oh yeah, and **** the Jews! That will solve the dilemma.