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  • Impressions of the Baltic Countries

    Just spent two weeks touring the four Baltic countries, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland. From both a cultural and educational viewpoint, it was a most fascinating trip. They are all certainly well worth visiting and we had a wonderful trip.

    All four countries suffered terribly under both the Nazis and then nearly 50 years of Communist Russia's devastating rule. Today, they are all virtually Socialistic countries.

    We had a Polish guide for the entire trip and in addition in the first three countries we had local city guides as well. They were all excellent and our Polish guide was tremendous. He was in his middle 60's and the other three guides were young ladies in their 30's. Plus, an hour lecture presentation was provided in each capital city by extremely entertaining, honest, and most open and direct local university professors.

    All four guides and the guest speakers spoke of the problems they are now enduring under Socialism. Certainly not as depressing as what they went through under Communism, as now they are at least free. But the countries are all struggling tremendously.

    Apparently, there is still an underlying current amongst a small minority of the people who still feel that that "at least under Communism, every one worked." One of the things the Russians did, immediately after WWII, was to forcibly relocate large numbers of their own citizens, to these countries with the purpose of having significant numbers of their citizens in making up future generations of the population. For example, even today, the Russian population of Riga, the capital of Latvia, outnumbers the local Latvians by a small majority.

    Under Socialism they are undergoing virtually the same problems we are in that large numbers of their population see no reason to work as they too have realized that the State will take care of them. Their unemployment rolls range from 13-20 percent in their Capital cities and much higher throughout the country in the rural areas. Under both Communism and Socialism, the underground theme amongst the workers was/is to work, but work slowly.

    But at least Latvia does not have an immigration problem as they do not provide any services or finances, whatsoever, to non-citizens (primarily Arabs). They pass through, but upon finding out that there are no freebies, they keep going. Gee, what a truly UNIQUE, simple solution to a most complexing problem.

    The countries are experiencing terrific brain drain. Their doctors and engineers, upon graduating, quickly take jobs elsewhere where they can receive a decent wage.

    All four countries are receiving rather hefty loans from the European Union for infrastructure projects to include roads and bridges, but are not sure just how long this will continue due to the economic shape of the vast majority of the larger West European countries. Estonia uses the Euro and the others will follow in one, two, and three years.

    Religion - Vast, vast attendance decreases in all Christian churches. Under Communism, people who attended churches lost their jobs and students were kicked out of colleges. That started the downward trend and unfortunately, once started, it has continued.

    Despite all of the above, for the most part the people seemed to be happy, were dressed well, out and about shopping, dining out, buying merchandise in large modern malls in Warsaw, attending movies, night clubs and so on.. The grocery and clothing stores were well stocked and were always crowded, as well as most of the restaurants.

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    It was shameful that the Allied Forces left Poland in the hands of the Russians after WW II, a country which had invaded them from the east at the beginning of the war. The exiled government of Poland worked closely with Great Britain where they had set up their headquarters. They had an important underground army, fought in Northern Africa with the Brits, and its peoples in Poland sheltered thousands upon thousands of Jews from the Nazis.

    On a different note, if you have not seen "The Other Dream Team", do so. It is about the 1992 Lithuanian Olympic basketball team and how it aided its people in the struggle against Russian oppression. The movie/documentary came out in late 2012 and is on DVD, but I saw it on the EPIX network.

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    • #3
      I have been to the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary. Beautiful countries and very nice people.
      I have come here to chew bubblegum and kickass ... and I'm all out of bubblegum.

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      • #4
        My brother-in-law's daughter is a missionary in Poland, but I haven't really had a chance to talk to her about it.

        I grew up with a girl who became a missionary at an orphanage in Romania and now runs it. Alcoholism is an epidemic in that region and many parents choose that over their own kids. They will drop their kids off at an orphanage for long periods of time, may even visit occasionally. Sometimes they will even take them back for a short time only to return them again.

        Those countries have lots of problems under the hood.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post
          It was shameful that the Allied Forces left Poland in the hands of the Russians after WW II, a country which had invaded them from the east at the beginning of the war. The exiled government of Poland worked closely with Great Britain where they had set up their headquarters. They had an important underground army, fought in Northern Africa with the Brits, and its peoples in Poland sheltered thousands upon thousands of Jews from the Nazis.

          On a different note, if you have not seen "The Other Dream Team", do so. It is about the 1992 Lithuanian Olympic basketball team and how it aided its people in the struggle against Russian oppression. The movie/documentary came out in late 2012 and is on DVD, but I saw it on the EPIX network.
          Thanks, ShockTalk for jotting my memory.

          Not sure if there was a good solution to the problem at the time (Yalta Conference), unless we wanted to take on Russia right after the end of WWII From everything I have read and heard, the American public would have never stood for it and would have rioted against even considering it. One of the problems, though, was that FDR, at the time, was very obviously a very old, dying man (enamoured with 'Uncle Joe') and wasn't up to dealing with Stalin. Churchill, being the minor figure, and certainly the least powerful of the three, from a military standpoint, had several discussions with FDR, and was very much against Russia swallowing-up all of what later became known as the Eastern Block Nations. But he was ignored and we ended up virtually caving in to Stalins's every demand.

          We can theorize all we want to about what would have happened if the US had taken a much stiffer position. We, unfortunately fell for the Soviet's promise that there would be free elections in the conquered countries. And we witnessed afterwards what free elections meant to the Russians.

          I might add that our Lithuanian guide was very proud (as well as she should be) and quick to elaborate upon two of their national sports heroes, Mr. Šarūnas Marčiulionis and Mr. Arvydas Sabonis, whom, I am sure most of us know were both outstanding players and played most successfully in the NBA for a number of years.

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