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  • #31
    Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
    Partially true?
    If you can't be intellectually honest, there's no discussion to be had.

    It's either true or false.

    We both know the answer. If you don't want to admit or understand that that statement is fully true (because it is), then all other discussion is just deflection, ignorance, lying, banter, or gobbledygook that stands on no foundation.

    Take the red pill, Neo. Medicare/aid is 25% of the annual budget ... we can have a very interesting discussion about it.
    Two presidents alone -- FDR and LBJ ... literally created ... recurring debt burdens with exponential growth.

    True or false?
    Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post

      Attempts to compare debt like this are useless. It treats all debt created by each President as equal.

      Two presidents alone -- FDR and LBJ -- have created more debt burdens than all other Presidents since 1913 COMBINED. They literally created the worst nightmare possible: A recurring debt burden with exponential growth.

      Example ... in 2023 total spending was $6.2T ... but ...

      Social Security was $1.4 trillion (22% of spending)
      Medicare/Medicaid was $1.9 trillion (30% of spending)

      ... so over 50% of Biden's spending can be directly attributed to FDR and LBJ by themselves for 2023 alone.
      There are some differences between FDR’s programs which were started during a depression, and LBJ’s programs which were doomed from the start. SS has gotten out of hand, but when it began, 65 years old was actually the average age of death. Today, that would place the age of beginning the SS pension at 75-77 years of age. SS Reforms such as was done 30 some odd years ago (raising the age to 67 or taking a lower amount), are necessary, or SS is doomed.

      LBJ’s welfare programs sustainability lacked common sense in 1964, and still do today.

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