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  • #31
    Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
    Did someone really just make the argument that a drugged up psychopath is only a serious threat in a crowded subway if they have a weapon?
    Shore did!!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post

      You just kicked yourself in your own ass and don't even realize it.
      That would have been amazing to watch!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by ShockerPrez View Post
        Yes, this case was totally the Trumpers trying to stir up and divide the population. Nailed it again.
        So you're saying it wasn't on Faux News 24/7 and there aren't Trumper politicians screeching for him to receive a medal WHILE he was in the middle of a trial? The tiny bit of news I read on the subject said exactly that. It might have just been a headline I read tho.

        We've moved to a time in this country where politicians will try to actively meddle with trials and judicial process. I wonder who made that popular (and "accepted"?) via Twitter/Truth Social? Yup. Sad.

        This country IS falling apart at the seams in many ways. And it may be more because of the Trumpers than the Left. Sad.

        I wonder how many years it's going to take before the real Conservative party is able to make a comeback. Maybe it never happens again. Another four years of Trump might solidify the Left's hold on this country, kind of like how it is in Europe. Sad.

        But who knows... anything can happen in a time of chaos. Unfortunately chaos generally doesn't breed good outcomes.

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        • #34
          Like many things, the Perry acquittal has unfortunately devolved into a racial issue for many. Yes, there has been some awful racism in the U.S. and there continues to some bias and racism that remain.

          Does anyone really think that Perry wouldn't have done the same thing to a crazed white person? Or that there are upstanding citizens like Pery, but are black, that wouldn't have done the same thing no matter what race or ethnic group the crazed person belongs to?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by ABC View Post
            Like many things, the Perry acquittal has unfortunately devolved into a racial issue for many. Yes, there has been some awful racism in the U.S. and there continues to some bias and racism that remain.

            Does anyone really think that Perry wouldn't have done the same thing to a crazed white person? Or that there are upstanding citizens like Pery, but are black, that wouldn't have done the same thing no matter what race or ethnic group the crazed person belongs to?
            Antiracism is the most racist ideology around. Looking for things that aren’t there but are identified by one color solely to gain benefit in any means necessary. This has ZERO to do with race and was all about safety. But certain groups will always play the card at any chance they get for political or financial gains. Insert the most hypocritical organization on the planet, BLM.
            Deuces Valley.
            ... No really, deuces.
            ________________
            "Enjoy the ride."

            - a smart man

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            • #36
              Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

              So you're saying it wasn't on Faux News 24/7 and there aren't Trumper politicians screeching for him to receive a medal WHILE he was in the middle of a trial? The tiny bit of news I read on the subject said exactly that. It might have just been a headline I read tho.

              We've moved to a time in this country where politicians will try to actively meddle with trials and judicial process. I wonder who made that popular (and "accepted"?) via Twitter/Truth Social? Yup. Sad.

              This country IS falling apart at the seams in many ways. And it may be more because of the Trumpers than the Left. Sad.

              I wonder how many years it's going to take before the real Conservative party is able to make a comeback. Maybe it never happens again. Another four years of Trump might solidify the Left's hold on this country, kind of like how it is in Europe. Sad.

              But who knows... anything can happen in a time of chaos. Unfortunately chaos generally doesn't breed good outcomes.
              I said you nailed it. Totally. Only Trumpers were using this trial to divide people. It totally wasn't and isn't being used by anyone else except Faux News as some sort of vehicle to promote a political agenda. That much is clear.

              You are, yet again, completely in control of the facts and have graced us with an unimpeachable analysis of this topic.

              Well done. (Again).
              "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by ABC View Post
                Like many things, the Perry acquittal has unfortunately devolved into a racial issue for many. Yes, there has been some awful racism in the U.S. and there continues to some bias and racism that remain.

                Does anyone really think that Perry wouldn't have done the same thing to a crazed white person? Or that there are upstanding citizens like Pery, but are black, that wouldn't have done the same thing no matter what race or ethnic group the crazed person belongs to?
                I'm just learning for the first time right now that the chokee was a person of color. That adds an unfortunate variable to the calculus for obvious reasons.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post

                  Antiracism is the most racist ideology around. Looking for things that aren’t there but are identified by one color solely to gain benefit in any means necessary. This has ZERO to do with race and was all about safety. But certain groups will always play the card at any chance they get for political or financial gains. Insert the most hypocritical organization on the planet, BLM.
                  I wouldn't say, "most". The most racist ideology around would be the belief that, "the only good ****** is a dead ******." And the simple fact that 99% of the readers on this fine forum could decipher that heavily edited phrase, speaks for itself. Wokeism or Trumpism is not the answer IMO.

                  The best way to have the most positive impact is just to unplug from your handler's news feeds. Then be kind to your neighbor, no matter their race, ethnicity, or religion. If enough of us would do that, we could heal this country overnight.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by ShockerPrez View Post

                    I said you nailed it. Totally. Only Trumpers were using this trial to divide people. It totally wasn't and isn't being used by anyone else except Faux News as some sort of vehicle to promote a political agenda. That much is clear.

                    You are, yet again, completely in control of the facts and have graced us with an unimpeachable analysis of this topic.

                    Well done. (Again).
                    Oh no, I assume it was being bandied about on the Lib networks by the Wokeist as well. But I still, even though I know better, believe the Trumpers (who are made up of a lot of previous Silent Majority members) should behave better. Faux News is the disease (as is Wokeism, etc.), Trump is a symptom, and the rest of us are either the victims, complicit, or both (I'm not 100% that made any sense).

                    I will say that IMO, Trumpers and Faux News are more harmful to the peace of this country than the Lib/Woke/Left at this point. I used to believe it was all the Left, and "we" were the Holy Party. My eyes were opened from that total delusion about 4 years ago.

                    The bottom line is this: you are either indoctrinated or not. If the free thinking Liberals and Conservatives could just get together and make a new country, the rest of the MSNBC/FauxNews crowd could be left to blow each other's brains out. Then we could come back after the Civil War and try the experiment again.

                    Our only salvation is for people to unplug and get back to being more local in their thoughts and actions.

                    Perhaps one person in this thread would like to volunteer to be a guinea pig in 2025. The experiment is to stop listening to "conservative" talk radio, or watch political shows, or in any way consume political information/news for a period of 3 months. After this period you will report back and answer honestly about how you feel.

                    I have watched folks in my life unplug and achieve amazing transformations w/ respect to peace and perspective. It would be interesting to see if we could have a convert in here.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by pinstripers View Post

                      physically healthy, maybe
                      Has it become that apparent?

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                        • #42
                          Daniel Penny's lawyers weighing malicious prosecution lawsuit after trial: 'Collusion from the very beginning'

                          https://www.foxnews.com/media/daniel...sion-beginning

                          Marine veteran Daniel Penny's defense team is eyeing a malicious prosecution lawsuit against District Attorney Alvin Bragg and others behind the charges, turning the tables after the lengthy high-profile case concluded with an acquittal.

                          "They knew they weren't going to be able to get him, so they had to get rid of that top count in order to get to that second count, just in hopes that maybe they could pull out a win here, and they were unsuccessful, thank God."

                          Raiser said the suit would target Bragg for "blurring" the "ethical lines" with the case's handling. The filing would also home in on the medical examiner's office, which he alleged colluded with Bragg's office.

                          "The record was made fairly clear as to the extent of his involvement and what occurred here," he said. "He was appointed by Mayor Adams, [who belongs to the] same political party as Alvin Bragg. There was collusion there, and the collusion began from the very beginning of this case and all the way through. The district attorney needed the medical examiner and needed the medical examiner to act quickly, and he did just that."


                          This would be a civil case so the standard for judgment against the defendants is "more likely than not" as opposed to the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard in the criminal case. I don't think the criminal case even met the "more likely than not" standard for a conviction.

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                          • #43
                            What a complete crock of **** that this even made it to trial. Politics is long past common sense and it is seeping into the criminal justice system and just about every other crevice of our society.
                            Brummett throws, STRUCK HIM OUT! THE SHOCKERS ARE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS! AN UNBELIEVABLE STORY!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Onegreatracer View Post
                              What a complete crock of **** that this even made it to trial. Politics is long past common sense and it is seeping into the criminal justice system and just about every other crevice of our society.
                              If it had not gone to trial the uproar from the populace would have probably resulted in violence. Just the law enforcement covering their backsides as a pre-emptive move to be take rather than to simply have it ignored or a finding of no grounds to prosecute by the DA office.

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