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  • Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
    We all know that effective CEOs will fire-and-rehire fast when things aren't working out or going as fast as they should. We saw Trump do this very effectively in his first term. We know Biden didn't do squat. To me, the risk of a bad pick becoming a sustained problem under Trump is very minimal.
    That is a good point.

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    • My hope is that these appointments are more or less there to provide and maintain an overall direction of said department. These people and Trump can share a vision and a goal. From there, they then hire/promote/fire the people that know the ins and outs of the bureacracy to implement the strategy for how to get there. In addition to sharing the vision for the department.

      It's going to be a huge task, and who knows if it's even possible at this point to achieve, regardless of who's in charge or appointed. We are looking at decades of them being out of control and infiltrated with ideologues bent on ruling over small fiefdoms without accountability.

      It's a fine line between maintaing the dept's actual obligations of providing it's intended services to the country while eliminating the bloat and malevolence within each one that has festered for so long.
      "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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      • We don’t need much leadership from these departments for the first two year anyway. What you need are people who won’t stand in trumps way and who can identify leaders in the dept. The first two years are going to be about paring down the government and actually draining the swamp.
        People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -Isaac Asimov

        Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded
        Who else posts fake **** all day in order to maintain the acrimony? Wingnuts, that's who.

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        • Originally posted by shock View Post
          We don’t need much leadership from these departments for the first two year anyway. What you need are people who won’t stand in trumps way and who can identify leaders in the dept. The first two years are going to be about paring down the government and actually draining the swamp.
          Somewhat true. But to get some of the major changes done, will require 60 votes in the senate, which will be tough. In those cases, you will need great leadership.

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          • Originally posted by ABC View Post
            My quick take on appointments so far is 75/80% good.

            Gaetz is awful. Being an asshole to everyone isn't a qualification.
            Tulsi Gabbard is awful.
            RFK is awful.

            Those three picks make me think that Trump is trolling us.

            Hegseth is the least bad. The biggest issue is lack of experience with such a bureaucracy.
            I don't know about Noem. She is squirrely and though a Governor; she doesn't have any law enforcement experience.


            All of the agencies need fundamental change. Are those four able to implement fundamental change? I do not think so. And all for a variety of different reasons.

            Though for the left going apoplectic on a few of these appointments, Obama considered RFK for a cabinet position, and clearly Buttigieg (and others) did not have any experience running a big bureaucracy and it shows.
            I usually like your opinions. However there is good and bad to each pick, and I think you miss the mark on most of your thoughts. All three if these picks aren’t picked to transform your opinion. They are picked to disrupt the status quo.

            I agree that Gaetz is the worst of the picks, but I do see some positive in his attacking the status quo.

            Tulsi has more good than bad.

            Hegseth and RFK are the best of Trump’s picks, but they aren’t perfect. You need to get out of your “picks on principles” and see the bigger picture on each of these picks, imo. You sound too much like an “establishment Republican”.

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            • Originally posted by ABC View Post
              My quick take on appointments so far is 75/80% good.

              Gaetz is awful. Being an asshole to everyone isn't a qualification.
              Tulsi Gabbard is awful.
              RFK is awful.

              Those three picks make me think that Trump is trolling us.

              Hegseth is the least bad. The biggest issue is lack of experience with such a bureaucracy.
              I don't know about Noem. She is squirrely and though a Governor; she doesn't have any law enforcement experience.


              All of the agencies need fundamental change. Are those four able to implement fundamental change? I do not think so. And all for a variety of different reasons.

              Though for the left going apoplectic on a few of these appointments, Obama considered RFK for a cabinet position, and clearly Buttigieg (and others) did not have any experience running a big bureaucracy and it shows.
              I love you ABC! You are definitely the SECOND smartest person in this fine forum.

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              • Originally posted by Shockm View Post

                I usually like your opinions. However there is good and bad to each pick, and I think you miss the mark on most of your thoughts. All three if these picks aren’t picked to transform your opinion. They are picked to disrupt the status quo.

                I agree that Gaetz is the worst of the picks, but I do see some positive in his attacking the status quo.

                Tulsi has more good than bad.

                Hegseth and RFK are the best of Trump’s picks, but they aren’t perfect. You need to get out of your “picks on principles” and see the bigger picture on each of these picks, imo. You sound too much like an “establishment Republican”.
                LMFAO!

                You are clueless.

                And indoctrinated.

                When you address ABC, you will use sir. No eye contact either.

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                  • Originally posted by ABC View Post

                    Absolutely no experience in a very technical field. She has been very loyal to Trump so there should be a spot for her. She seems a bit conspiratorial on things too.
                    What is your opinion of Cornyn?
                    Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                    • When the dust settles I am VERY confident the new appointees, whoever they are, will out perform their predecessor's by a very large margin. As I have posted several times before the largess in government needs some serious shaving starting with the majority of DEI hires in the Military, FBI, CIA, State Dept, IRS, DOJ, etc etc etc. Also hold the crooks accountable !

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                      • Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post

                        What is your opinion of Cornyn?
                        My bar for all politicians is low. Cornyn is fine but could be much better.

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                        • Originally posted by asiseeit View Post
                          When the dust settles I am VERY confident the new appointees, whoever they are, will out perform their predecessor's by a very large margin. As I have posted several times before the largess in government needs some serious shaving starting with the majority of DEI hires in the Military, FBI, CIA, State Dept, IRS, DOJ, etc etc etc. Also hold the crooks accountable !
                          Agree with the last of your statements. And I am curious why you are VERY confident. Completely changing things takes organizational skills that Gabbard and Gaetz do not have.

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                          • Tulsi Gabbard is just wrong on so many things. Tulsi Gabbard vs. Trump’s First Term - WSJ

                            From the WSJ:

                            For that, and the maximum-pressure sanctions that followed, she calls President Trump a warmonger. But as Mr. Trump often said in this past campaign, those policies had Iran “on its knees.” They also led to the Abraham Accords.

                            Mr. Trump wants Saudi Arabia in those accords. In 2019 Ms. Gabbard said Mr. Trump had turned the U.S. into the Saudis’ “prostitute.” She pushed to end support for the Saudis in Yemen. President Biden did that, and the Houthis have since shut down most commercial shipping in the Red Sea.

                            In 2020 Ms. Gabbard assailed Mr. Trump’s strike on Qassem Soleimani, Iran’s terror chief. She said the strike “undermined our national security” and had “no justification whatsoever.” She tried to limit Mr. Trump’s war powers against Iran. In 2018 she tried to cut from the annual defense bill a strategy to counter Iran’s influence. That would also push us toward war, she argued.

                            She had one note on Iran—Obama-style appeasement was the only way to avoid war—and she was wrong. Given those views, how would she analyze and present new, if uncertain, evidence that Iran is advancing toward a nuclear weapon if she thought it might lead to war?

                            In May 2018 Ms. Gabbard wrote, “Israel needs to stop using live ammunition in its response to unarmed protesters in Gaza.” Later that week Hamas admitted most of the dead were its members. It had sent them to breach the Gaza border in an operation presaging the Oct. 7 attack. Ms. Gabbard maligned Israel for daring to prevent it.

                            Most shamefully, Ms. Gabbard went to Syria in 2017 for a photo-op with dictator Bashar al-Assad while he was massacring his own people. She said she was “skeptical” that he was behind the chemical-weapons attack even as photos of the child victims moved President Trump.

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                            • Originally posted by ABC View Post

                              Agree with the last of your statements. And I am curious why you are VERY confident. Completely changing things takes organizational skills that Gabbard and Gaetz do not have.
                              He meant to say, "He is praying VERY hard that the new appointees, will outperform their predecessor's..."

                              Organizational, shmorganizational.

                              Most of the posters in here have worker-bee insight on executive level problems.

                              Perhaps the Great Alaskan Industrial Revolutionary would want to weigh in here and inform his contemporaries on the value of actual experience. shock

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                              • Originally posted by ABC View Post

                                Agree with the last of your statements. And I am curious why you are VERY confident. Completely changing things takes organizational skills that Gabbard and Gaetz do not have.
                                1. She has a low bar in front of her
                                2. She has evolved in a very positive way politically
                                3. She helped DJT in a significant way
                                4. She is very articulate
                                5. She is clearly a patriot

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