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Gen. David Petraeus Resigns As CIA Director Over Extra-Marital Affair

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  • #16
    No caption needed... yikes!


    "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BenWSU View Post
      Interesting how he was able to hide it from the CIA - Guess the CIA isn't as good as most people think.

      Bet their's alot of people behind the scenes that aren't too happy about the FBI investigating the CIA.
      They were not investigating the CIA. I have read 2 stories - one was they were investigating his mistress because they thought classified information was being passed and leaked to her and during the investigation when monitoring her emails found about his relationship with her. There is a second story coming out that someone tipped off the FBI that he was having an affair and he was allowing her access to his email (assuming classified email).

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      • #18
        Originally posted by GoShockers89 View Post
        Disagree.

        The guy revolutionized the approach the military took in Iraq and Afghanistan- he didn't just oversee a massive influx of troops. His counterinsurgency doctrine, although seemingly obvious in hindsight, rocked the strategic status quo at the military's highest levels. He might not be a Patton on X's and O's (nobody is), but he's the first general since MacArthur to turn around a war that we were on a path to lose.
        You misunderstood my post. I wasn't saying he shouldn't have stepped down or deserves no blame. More along the lines that it's a shame when a good role model and accomplished public figure falls apart in plain sight. Seeing an American hero fall from grace is always a bummer.
        We have a winner. Petraeus literally wrote the book on counter insurgency and applied the "insert teams" into the lowest levels of the populous leadership to influence the country from the bottom up, not the top down. He could've misused the troop surge so many different ways but he bucked the status quo and went with his way. I would suggest all check out this briefing he gave:



        I have studied his teachings and processes thoroughly and have even tried to incorporate some of his thinking myself. Now with all that being said, he needed to resign and figure out how to repair the rest of his life.

        A little more info: Petraeus was not necessarily liked by his peers, but no one was respected more. On the contrary, Tommy Franks was well liked, but ended up being a yes man for Rumsfield, and that, as SB said, cost us some lives.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
          They were not investigating the CIA. I have read 2 stories - one was they were investigating his mistress because they thought classified information was being passed and leaked to her and during the investigation when monitoring her emails found about his relationship with her. There is a second story coming out that someone tipped off the FBI that he was having an affair and he was allowing her access to his email (assuming classified email).
          He will have at least two email accounts. A regular account that is for official use only and a SIPR account which is the classified account. If he was really stupid enough to give her access to his SIPR account or he was sending classified emails on his regular account, then that shows you how effective women can be in counter intelligence. Some of the greatest social engineering spies of the last 100 years are also some of the hottest women around. That is why when we do security clearance checks, we look at marital affairs, multiple contacts with foreign national women, and anything else that would make someone vulnerable to compromise.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
            A scenario that's playing around in my head:

            Does anybody wonder why he announced the REASON he was stepping down? That's unusual. And don't get all "Generals are cut from another cloth" on me. Generals are forced into retirement all the time and the announcement never indicates why -- in fact it's the opposite, they gush over the guy even though he was just fired.

            I'm just sitting here thinking ... hmm, he's the Director of the C.I.A. and he vigorously defended the C.I.A. when Obama went on the offensive blaming the "intelligence community" for the excellent job the C.I.A. did in Benghazi. Bi "vigorously" I mean, he didn't say much, but he said it absolutely and publicly. From a subordinate's standpoint, that's vigorous. I'm not sure Benghazi is going away.

            I'm thinking somebody on the White House administration knew about the affair and threatened to go public if he didn't cave on Benghazi. And he, in turn, f'ed up their plan by just putting it out in the open and resigning.

            Now the other curious thing is that Petraeus will not testify on Benghazi.

            That makes me wonder if there were MORE shenanigans (maybe multiple affairs, etc) and a deal was cut that he would come clean on an affair, retire, and not testify; and they will keep the rest of the story quiet. Or, will he change his mind once he is subpoenaed at some future date?

            Or is all of this just coincidental hogwash?
            Or is it Chicagoland politics? Find or plant some dirt on someone and then use it when the timing is right. It's still on Petraeus whatever the case may be, unless he was truly framed, which I seriously doubt.

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            • #21
              I'll bet the General wishes he would have purchased a sports car...

              "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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              • #22
                As CIA director he is a civilian and not subject to UCMJ. Intelligence people having affairs makes them subject to all forms of blackmail. Good job by the FBI to nip this in the bud.
                Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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                • #23
                  former Michigan Congressman Pete Hoekstra (who is tied into the intelligence community) tweet that the Petraeus mess will "get much worse..more here than meets the eye."

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                  • #24
                    Wonder why they waited until after the elections to do all this

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                    • #25
                      Goshockers89:

                      I do not for a moment disagree with your appraisal of General Petraeus. I do, however, believe you completely overlooked General H. Norman Schwarzkopf, Commander of the Allied Forces in the First Gulf War, as far as being certainly equal to, if not higher, to General Petraeus, in every category, in reference to being the most effective and influential general in the last forty years.

                      Different type of war, different conditions, and different time. Still, he WON! And he won in the most OVERWHELMING way. He was given a job to do and no one could have done it better. As usual, it was only when Colin Powell, the SecDef, and the President got themselves involved in the action, that things did not end the way they should have.
                      Last edited by 60Shock; November 10, 2012, 08:48 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by BenWSU View Post
                        Wonder why they waited until after the elections to do all this
                        might be because he was suppose to testify on the Benghazi. When the administration tried to throw the CIA under the bus he pushed back.

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                        • #27
                          "Oh Boy!"




                          The other ... other woman: Florida housewife emerges at center of Petraeus scandal

                          "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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                          • #28
                            Overheard on the radio today:

                            On the last episode of Real West Point Housewives it was revealed that the Generals are now being led by their privates.

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                            • #29
                              Funny
                              In the fast lane

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