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  • #31
    Idk. I think it is a slipper slope your on when you start down this road. What is welfare? Is unemployment welfare? Is farm subsidies welfare? Is ethanol subsidies welfare? Is school financial aid welfare? Is special deals that local and state government makes to companies welfare? Etc.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
      Romney touches on those who will vote for Obama (Dems) because they don't pay taxes and rely on gov't handouts. Apparently he talked about it at some fundraiser a while back and video was just posted. Obama has hammered him on it, but Romney is being absolutely honest about it and saying what just about everyone knows.

      The thought of lowering taxes doesn't appeal to those who don't pay taxes.
      The thought of smaller government doesn't appeal to those who rely on big government.
      The thought of working for something and doing something for yourself doesn't appeal to those who enjoy being paid to be lazy bums.

      We're dangerously close to the point of no return. I don't know how many of the 47% actually vote, but the more that do, the closer we come to going over the cliff without a parachute or any hope of recovery.
      About 18.7% of that 47% are senior citizens and most of them do vote. Also 7000 of that group (a very small percentage) are millionaires and I am sure they all vote. But I have a feeling a large portion of the remaining 81% don't vote.

      I also have a feeling that Mitt Romney may have been a part of the 47% in 2008 and that is why he doesn't want to release his tax returns.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by shox1989 View Post
        About 18.7% of that 47% are senior citizens and most of them do vote. Also 7000 of that group (a very small percentage) are millionaires and I am sure they all vote. But I have a feeling a large portion of the remaining 81% don't vote.

        I also have a feeling that Mitt Romney may have been a part of the 47% in 2008 and that is why he doesn't want to release his tax returns.
        *yawn*
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        • #34
          Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
          *yawn*
          I'm bored with Romney too. When are the Republicans nominating a presidential candidate?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Anthroshock View Post
            I'm bored with Romney too. When are the Republicans nominating a presidential candidate?
            Actually I think the real question is when will this nation put forward a real leader to lead this country?

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            • #36
              I think we should paint the wall to look like the background landscape so it has natural camoflage. It will utterly confuse disorient potential illegal immigrants.

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              • #37
                National Journal is a research and advisory services company based in Washington, D.C. offering services in government affairs.


                It’s also ironic, from a policy standpoint, that Republicans like Mitt Romney have adopted the 47 percent as a talking point to appeal to their conservative base. A huge reason that so few people pay no federal income taxes is because Republicans over the years expanded the tax breaks for the working poor and for families with children. These tax breaks, in turn, reduced families’ tax bills, sometimes to the point where they didn’t pay anything to the federal government at all.

                The biggest champions of this were Republican Presidents Reagan and George W. Bush. As part of the 2001 and 2003 tax-cut packages, Bush expanded the child tax credit to give bigger breaks to families with children. Similarly, during the 1986 tax-reform campaign, Reagan expanded the tax break known as the Earned Income Income Tax Credit as a way to help out poor people.

                At the bill's signing, Reagan hailed it as a victory. “Millions of working poor will be dropped from the tax rolls altogether,” he said in 1986. “And that’s why I’m certain that the bill I’m signing today is not only an historic overhaul of our tax code and a sweeping victory for fairness; it’s also the best antipoverty bill, the best pro-family measure, and the best job-creation program ever to come out of the Congress of the United States.”

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                • #38
                  Great story. Just shows how great Reagan was. But America is much different than when Reagan was our leader - it sads, but all Romney did was point out out the truth - and the democrats are the party of the "Mooches". Our nation has become soft, dependent on handouts and has lost it self reliance.

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                  • #39
                    True that.

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                    • #40
                      Liberals and Conservative have a similar philosophy.

                      Liberals think that the rich have too much money and should be taxed more.
                      Conservative think the poor have too much money and should be taxed more.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by 1979Shocker View Post
                        Liberals and Conservative have a similar philosophy.

                        Liberals think that the rich have too much money and should be taxed more.
                        Conservative think the poor have too much money and should be taxed more.
                        Obviously, you don't understand.....at least what a Conservative is.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post
                          Obviously, you don't understand.....at least what a Conservative is.
                          l was only going by what was in the Ryan plan.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by 1979Shocker View Post
                            Liberals and Conservative have a similar philosophy.

                            Liberals think that the rich have too much money and should be taxed more.
                            Conservative think the poor have too much money and should be taxed more.
                            Did you actually read the link you just posted? Just saying.

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                            • #44
                              Are you talking about the nationaljournal link? It looks like that's they only one I have on this page.

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