#WatchUs Make Change

[wufan]

In the last several weeks we've watched two murders on TV.

In one of them, three people essentially hunted and shot a man. One of the three actually filmed the hunt and the killing. The justification I've heard for that killing is that the victim didn't obey simple commands. I don't believe any American has any duty to obey commands from a couple of civilians in a pickup.

In the other, a cop kneeled on a man's neck for nearly 9 minutes, while the victim said he couldn't breathe and people watching the incident told the cop he was killing the man. When citizens attempted to approach the victim, they were threatened with pepper spray.

A discusiion of a response to those murders got started on Shockernet. Instead of discussing ways to move forward and hope to prevent repeats of those killings, the conversation turned into a discussion of whether kneeling during the national anthem is disrespecting the flag.

Disrespecting human life is more important to me than whether someone kneels during the anthem.

I don't care if it's 3 white guys hunting down and shooting a black guy or if it's three black guys hunting down and killing a white man. Both are equally heinous. I think there would have been arrests made a little quicker if three black guys in Georgia had used a shotgun on a white guy.

I’ve not heard “not obeying civilian commands” as a justification for murder. Who are you hanging out with? If you want a discussion about those murders, then discuss. Everyone involved in both circumstances has now been arrested and charged. What is the next step? What are you trying to fix, and what is your proposed solution?

[SB Shock]

Sullentrop should as a part of the Roundhouse Podcast interview the black WSU basketball coaches and get their stories about their experiences.

[pinstripers]

It's not intended to disrespect the flag, but it looks like they are disrespecting the flag, if that makes sense.

Well, Kap said it was, and I believe him.

[ShockTalk]

I’ve not heard “not obeying civilian commands” as a justification for murder. Who are you hanging out with? If you want a discussion about those murders, then discuss. Everyone involved in both circumstances has now been arrested and charged. What is the next step? What are you trying to fix, and what is your proposed solution?

[ShockingButTrue]

Well, Kap said it was, and I believe him.

So because kap believes one certified psycho cop walking the streets of Minneapolis proves all cops are bad he is right.

Many would disagree with your line of thinking there, but not with your right to be wrong. Or did I misunderstand?

[wufan]

So because kap believes one certified psycho cop walking the streets of Minneapolis proves all cops are bad he is right.

You’re mixing arguments...it was said Kap wasn’t disrespecting the flag, despite the optics. Pin said that CK said he was disrespecting the flag. It has nothing to due with his beliefs and everything to do with his stated motive.

[pinstripers]

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," -------Colin Kaepernick

[ShockingButTrue]

You’re mixing arguments...it was said Kap wasn’t disrespecting the flag, despite the optics. Pin said that CK said he was disrespecting the flag. It has nothing to due with his beliefs and everything to do with his stated motive.

No, whose on third...

[ShockingButTrue]

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," -------Colin Kaepernick

More white people were killed by the police than black people in 2019, by double.- Washington Post

It's rather known what form of oppression he rails against. Have you ever known any oppressors of others in your life, other than your boss at work?