Hitler, God and the Bible

[Wu du Nord]

Good morning, sir.

In other words, you got nothing.

I don't have the thing that you claimed that I had, which I never claimed I had. ;-)

You got called out and fell a victim of the fallacist's fallacy.

Sorry, but no. Here's a good thing to remember about fallacies: they relate to specific logical arguments.

Smug people HATE being called out! :acne:

That's only partially true. In many cases, smug people LOVE being called out. Do be careful, it's a jungle out there. Maybe you should just have a Coke and a smile. ;-)

I have been on both sides of the Godwin's Law debate, many times.

I don't know whether to believe this claim, or not. On one hand, I think you do enjoy demonizing things with gratuitous comparisons to Hitler. On the other hand, someone who has really 'been on both sides of the Godwin's Law debate, many times' wouldn't be skipping off to Wikipedia, and they certainly never miss the entire point of it.

On the third hand, it's entirely possible that you have repeatedly had the point of Godwin's Law explained to you, you have many times refused to accept its purpose and intention, and you continue to spin your wheels in the quagmire of your own delusions.

In itself, Godwin's Law was meant only as a humorous observation, but like many things, took legs of its own. Memetics indeed! That said, many have used it in attempt to discredit an idea or belief simply because a comparison, valid or not, has taken place. I noticed a distinct smugness in your tone in many threads, saw that you really like to hit and run, saw where you improperly invoked Godwin's Law and I pounced. :):):):)

Ah, yes, the truth. Wow, speaking of memetics, U MAD BRO???.

So you DID read the pieces I linked for you. Good that at least one of us has had the opportunity to learn something in the course of this exchange. ;-)

I suppose that maybe I should be flattered that you took time out of your life to 'correct me' over a quip about an absurd documentary, but you might have waited until an actual problem/mistake occurred... before you 'pounced' (really, is that how you think?). I confess that as this conversation has developed, I have ratcheted up the level of condescension. Apologies.

But since you can provide no instances where a comparison to Hitler and Nazis can be made, I can only assume that you feel those comparisons are always off limits.

Ok. You want to call x evil? You want to label y an abomination upon the land? That's cool, people need hobbies. Just find a way to justify your claim without using comparisons to Hitler. The evilness of a thing can and should be justifiable by itself. It's not Hitler that made it evil.

Did you know that the current pope, head of the catholic church, was a member of the Hitler Youth?
Are you aware that there is a catholic institution in the MVC?
The lesson as always: Creighton is evil.
Also, Hitler.

Have a good time. :)

[MoValley John]

If you knew anything at all about me, you would know, as many on this forum already do, that I debated Godwin's Law for what seemed like years on the old Valley Talk. Specifically, there were a few lawyers, one from Peoria that loved to dabble in the topic. We also discussed memetics at length, so you taught me nothing. Sorry.

As for the history of the current pope, yep, I'm Catholic, I know his history. I also know, living in Omaha, that there is a school here that claims to be Catholic. Then again, much of what Jesuit institutions teach are far from Catholic, so your claim of a Catholic school in the Valley must be taken with a grain of sand.

[Wu du Nord]

If you knew anything at all about me, you would know, as many on this forum already do, that I debated Godwin's Law for what seemed like years on the old Valley Talk. Specifically, there were a few lawyers, one from Peoria that loved to dabble in the topic. We also discussed memetics at length, so you taught me nothing. Sorry.

You (pl.) must have been adorable.

I don't think that the abuse of straw men is a crime, so you are free to go. ;-)

Be safe out there, and remember to look both ways before 'pounce', in the future. I'd hate to see you 'pouncing' unnecessarily into another trap of your own invention, Tigger.

[MoValley John]

[QUOTE=Wu du Nord;283304]You (pl.) must have been adorable.

I don't think that the abuse of straw men is a crime, so you are free to go. ;-)

Be safe out there, and remember to look both ways before 'pounce', in the future. I'd hate to see you 'pouncing' unnecessarily into another trap of your own invention, Tigger.[/QUOTE

I was adorable, thank you.

Let me leave you with MVJ's Law, I have posted this before on other sites. Feel free to cut any holes in this law that you feel are applicable.

MVJ's Law: You will never change any person's political or religious opinions on an internet message board. Nor will you win or lose any political or religious debate on a message board. People with opinions strong enough to spend time reading political or religious posts on a message board will not be swayed by anything posted that you or anyone else opines. Therefore, it is merely a game, one in which you should enjoy or simply get out of the way.

For me, I choose to play. It is great fun!

[Kung Wu]

Let me leave you with MVJ's Law, I have posted this before on other sites. Feel free to cut any holes in this law that you feel are applicable.

MVJ's Law: You will never change any person's political or religious opinions on an internet message board. Nor will you win or lose any political or religious debate on a message board. People with opinions strong enough to spend time reading political or religious posts on a message board will not be swayed by anything posted that you or anyone else opines. Therefore, it is merely a game, one in which you should enjoy or simply get out of the way.

While normally this law would be just outstanding and concrete, there has been one ripple in the universe. Over in another thread I am pretty sure @Maggie: and @SB Shock: have went out and purchased a Ron Paul t-shirt due to the awesomeness of my Internet message boardacity.

Testify @SB Shock:!!

[MoValley John]

While normally this law would be just outstanding and concrete, there has been one ripple in the universe. Over in another thread I am pretty sure @Maggie and @SB Shock have went out and purchased a Ron Paul t-shirt due to the awesomeness of my Internet message boardacity.

Testify @SB Shock!!

But we all know that you defy all rules of nature. You are the anti-matter! Nobody brings it like Kung Wu brings it!!!

[60Shock]

“He that uses many words for explaining any subject, doth, like the cuttlefish, hide himself for the most part in his own ink.” - John Ray, naturalist (1627-1705).

Yeah, I know, this should this be in its proper category, but somehow it would not be as applicable there.

[Wu du Nord]

Now, now, John seems like a perfectly nice fellow (despite his propensity for 'pouncing' - sorry, still laughing about that one - before really thinking things through). As best I can tell, he was simply trying to relive the glory of some mighty battle-of-the-bantams fought in his youth. I certainly won't fault him for that, and neither should you, my good fellow Shocker.

At this point, there's no need to pile on, nor to reopen his wounds.

Let us agree to follow my good example and let him have the last topical word on the subject, eh?

Have a nice time!

[SB Shock]

Now, now, John seems like a perfectly nice fellow (despite his propensity for 'pouncing' - sorry, still laughing about that one - before thinking really things through). As best I can tell, he was simply trying to relive the glory of some mighty battle-of-the-bantams fought in his youth. I certainly won't fault him for that, and neither should you, my good fellow Shocker.

At this point, there's no need to pile on, nor to reopen his wounds.

Let us agree to follow my good example and let him have the last topical word on the subject, eh?

Have a nice time!

I think it safe to say that everybody like Mo Valley and I wouldn't try to "duel" with him much - unless you like losing.

[Kung Wu]

“He that uses many words for explaining any subject, doth, like the cuttlefish, hide himself for the most part in his own ink.” - John Ray, naturalist (1627-1705).

Aren't "naturalists" the guys who run around naked? :indecisiveness:

Now, now, John seems like a perfectly nice fellow (despite his propensity for 'pouncing' - sorry, still laughing about that one - before thinking really things through). As best I can tell, he was simply trying to relive the glory of some mighty battle-of-the-bantams fought in his youth. I certainly won't fault him for that, and neither should you, my good fellow Shocker.

At this point, there's no need to pile on, nor to reopen his wounds.

Let us agree to follow my good example and let him have the last topical word on the subject, eh?

Have a nice time!

LOL

[Wu du Nord]

I think it safe to say that everybody like Mo Valley and I wouldn't try to "duel" with him much - unless you like losing.

a) Those are bold words for a man who has never glimpsed the full size of my unsheathed sword in all its glory.

b) This is for you.

c) What do you think you are doing?

[MoValley John]

a) Those are bold words for a man who has never glimpsed the full size of my unsheathed sword in all its glory.

b) This is for you.

c) What do you think you are doing?

Oh my God!!!! Unsheathed sword???? All its glory???? Is this a porn film?

Me thinks Wu du Nord wants every one to look at his massive, circumcised junk!!!! Afterall, his sword is unsheathed!!!

In all my days on the internet, there have been few times that I have seen a post with more intended or unintended phallic references!!!

No, Wu du Nord, I do not want to glimpse at the full size of your unsheathed sword in all its glory. Thanks for the offer, though. Fifty bucks says Wu du Nord drives a Corvette.

[MoValley John]

I think it's time to just leave Wu du Nord alone. Let him spend his free time admiring and polishing his massive, full size, unsheathed sword in all its glory.

[Kung Wu]

Oh my God!!!! Unsheathed sword???? All its glory???? Is this a porn film?

Me thinks Wu du Nord wants every one to look at his massive, circumcised junk!!!! Afterall, his sword is unsheathed!!!

In all my days on the internet, there have been few times that I have seen a post with more intended or unintended phallic references!!!

No, Wu du Nord, I do not want to glimpse at the full size of your unsheathed sword in all its glory. Thanks for the offer, though. Fifty bucks says Wu du Nord drives a Corvette.

Well, even his last name points North.

My money is on Mercedes.

[Wu du Nord]

a) I'm swelling - some might say engorged - with pride. My, er, ego had been stroked.

b) Toyota, actually. Gas prices are in the neighborhood of 10usd/gallon. Fuel efficiency is important, but don't let that get you guys down in the mouth. Not having a flash car gives me plenty of time to polish other things, as Brother John suggested.

c) I apologize in advance, but it is time to fish or cut bait. Uncircumcised. Sheathed, unsheathed... both available options. Normally, I wouldn't mention it, but this thread is about Hitler, and I'd like to be on the safe side... you know, in case someone asks, or knocks.

Edit: d) Oh, btw, John, your pizza delivery boy/copy machine repairman is here, and he's heard you like to 'pounce'. (cue music)