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  • I like things like this that have a purposeful use for space that is often times unused.

    11 Acres of Plant-infused Green Roofs Go 'Blue' - Capturing Rainwater in Flood-Prone Amsterdam

    Amsterdam’s roofs have just been converted into a giant sponge that will make the city more climate resilient.

    The Dutch have always been famous for their ability to control water, born out of the necessity of their homeland, much of which is below sea level.

    Now, their expert water management skills are transforming the city skyline in the capital city of Amsterdam from one of terracotta tile, concrete, and shingles into green grass and brown earth.

    It’s part of a new climate-resiliency trend in architecture and civic planning known as the ‘sponge city concept,’ in which a garden of water-loving plants, mosses, and soil absorbs excess rainwater before feeding it into the building for use in flushing toilets or watering plants on the ground.

    If heavy rains are predicted, a smart valve system empties the stored rainwater into the municipal storm drains and sewers in advance of the weather, allowing the roof to soak up water and reduce flooding in the city.

    In this way, the rooftops of buildings can be wrung out and filled up just like a sponge.

    In Amsterdam, 45,000 square meters, or 11 acres of flat metropolitan rooftops have already been fitted with these systems, and the contracting firms behind the technology say they make sense in dry climates like Spain just as much as in wet climates like Amsterdam.

    Rains, some scientists believe, will become heavier and more erratic in their delivery as the climate changes. Flooding costs billions in damages in countries like the UK, Netherlands, and Italy which just last year experienced terrible flooding in the plains of Emiglia Romagna.​
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    • If it works, California needs it. 11 acres isn't much of a sample, though.

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      • Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
        If it works, California needs it. 11 acres isn't much of a sample, though.
        It's a start though that I think shows the concept can be valid. If this is something that was more widespread, it could help with drought/flooding as well as help keep buildings cooler which would mean less power usage in general.

        I'd also be curious to see the results in dryer climates. They say it works there as well, though may have some differences in how it's approached. I hope we get some kind of follow up on that eventually.

        I've also thought building tops could also be used for solar to help power the buildings they're on. I believe the article also referenced putting solar panels above the green spaces. The evaporation from the green space would help keep solar panels cooler which helps absorption rate for energy usage.

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        • Mrs. p's grandmother, back in Missouri, had a cistern under the house (very common back there) and all the gutters drained into it.

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          • Quote: "Researchers at Brigham Young University warned in January 2023 that 'the lake as we know it' was on track to disappear in five years..."

            And today, May 2024, the lake is larger than it has ever been

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            • Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
              Quote: "Researchers at Brigham Young University warned in January 2023 that 'the lake as we know it' was on track to disappear in five years..."

              And today, May 2024, the lake is larger than it has ever been
              Big money in fear mongering. Establish a theory then ask government to give you huge amounts to research your bogus theory. Then if you're really successful, you convince the sheep to donate even more money. The politicians who push these bogus theories get kickbacks. It's been going on for about 100 years, but the population seems more gullible now than any other time in history.
              It's funny how so many people are convinced of these bogus theories (so called science), but can't comprehend the fact that there are only two sexes.
              The stupidity of people is mind boggling.
              Last edited by Atxshoxfan; May 17, 2024, 01:22 PM.

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              • New Challenge Emerging for the Transition to EV's:

                EV charging stations become prime target for copper thieves

                California should have known better than to compel a transition to electric vehicles while encouraging rampant drug use and crime, because everyone knows that copper wire is a go-to for addicts and thieves.

                From a report by John Nolte at Breitbart News today:
                ‘Thieves are targeting high-powered Tesla and other EV charging stations and stealing the heavy cable for the copper metal inside,’ reports San Francisco’s NBC affiliate. ‘In Vallejo, someone cut cables from nine charging stations — leaving Tesla drivers in a bind and causing tens of thousands of dollars in damage and repair costs.’

                ‘I think this is the second time or third that these have been cut,’ a local EV driver added. ‘So they need to put some gates up or something. I don’t know what they can do, but this is pretty inconvenient.’


                ​Ironically, stealing copper wire is increasingly lucrative as copper prices are “surging” because… the government-manufactured demand for charging stations and other “renewable” energy scams. From CarbonCredits.com:
                The surge in copper demand is driven by its pivotal role in renewable energy generation, electric vehicles, and grid infrastructure crucial for achieving net zero emissions. Market dynamics and global supply concerns have propelled copper prices upward, with top companies witnessing significant growth.


                And, this story from California isn’t unique; from Houston, Texas last week:
                Thieves hit four Tesla Supercharger stations in Houston area this week

                Monday, KPRC 2’s Gage Goulding reported on the theft of 18 cables from a Tesla charging station in Montrose.

                Since his report, more charging stations across the Houston area have been ransacked, leaving electric vehicle owners without a spark.

                On Wednesday, the cables from all charging stations at the Glenbrook Square shopping center were stolen. Every single connector in the lot had been slashed.

                Then last night, more charging stations were clipped in northwest Harris County.


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                • Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post

                  New Challenge Emerging for the Transition to EV's:
                  I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

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                  • So Joe has something to brag about as those cans of pennies that everyone has, is increasing in value

                    So my 1500 Penny's are now worth about $18 ? Just a great side benefit of going to renewable energy. The man is a genius!

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                    • Follow
                      on X. He is a meteorologist student and has lots and lots of facts and data. He is especially good and looking back at doom and gloom predictions.
                      Chris Martz

                      @ChrisMartzWX

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                      • "I offend stupid people." hahahaha
                        Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                        • Originally posted by ABC View Post
                          Follow
                          on X. He is a meteorologist student and has lots and lots of facts and data. He is especially good and looking back at doom and gloom predictions.
                          Chris Martz

                          @ChrisMartzWX
                          This guy does use common sense. It's too bad that academia doesn't.

                          The problem with climate activists isn't that they are totally wrong (although in a way they are). It's that they try to scare everyone into agreeing with their POV, instead of being honest about legitimate concerns that shouldn't requite the world to go into the economic toilet, which is what is happening because they want everything to CHANGE IMMEDIATELY.

                          The climate movement should be a 50-75 year or so movement of incremental changes. It's only an emergency because of the activists.

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                          • If a "scientist" wants government grants they have to agree to try and provide data that supports what the government is trying to sell to the dumbed down public.............like climate change or a virus

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                            • Originally posted by asiseeit View Post
                              If a "scientist" wants government grants they have to agree to try and provide data that supports what the government is trying to sell to the dumbed down public.............like climate change or a virus
                              Or the declining population of the 7 toed yellow bellied European frog.
                              Last edited by Atxshoxfan; May 18, 2024, 08:07 PM.

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                              • "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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