Sub's Alternative Energy Thread

[WstateU]

That's it! I say we go in to another lockdown until climate change is over. This is a global crisis of the likes we have never seen. We're all in this together. Let's appoint Fauci as the head of the oversight committee. We should all wear masks until climate change is over.

I spat coffee everywhere when I read this...

”climate crisis”

”DiNapoli said that for years, investors have "received platitudes and gaslighting in response" from Exxon in response to concerns about the climate crisis.”

[1972Shocker]

American Association of Petroleum Geologist sponsored Zoom presentation by Princeton graduate, Lee Krystinik PHD. His presentation is filled with Facts over Time as to Global Warming/Cooling Trends, CO2 Emissions and current Governmental Policies . Krystinik bills himself as a Climate Luke-Warmist. The first 28 minutes are setup and other stuff. Slide to the 28.0 minute mark to hear Lee’s 50 minute presentation.

Obviously not a Climate extremist if the AAPG is sponsoring this.

https://us02web.zoom.us/rec/share/gg...77ox94vA21vuVU

Access Passcode: b38mnR=D

[wufan]

American Association of Petroleum Geologist sponsored Zoom presentation by Princeton graduate, Lee Krystinik PHD. His presentation is filled with Facts over Time as to Global Warming/Cooling Trends, CO2 Emissions and current Governmental Policies . Krystinik bills himself as a Climate Luke-Warmist. The first 28 minutes are setup and other stuff. Slide to the 28.0 minute mark to hear Lee’s 50 minute presentation.

Obviously not a Climate extremist if the AAPG is sponsoring this.

https://us02web.zoom.us/rec/share/gg...77ox94vA21vuVU

Access Passcode: b38mnR=D

Thanks for sharing. Well worth the watch. This is largely in line with my understanding of anthropogenic CC, and when presented in this way, it makes discussions about risk mitigation solutions.

[pinstripers]

South Dakota rocked again as a wind turbine plant shuts its doors (yahoo.com)

[WstateU]

My pooch is a democrat...

[shock]

I saw that EPA is trying to shut racing down because of the modified engine.

[wufan]

I saw that EPA is trying to shut racing down because of the modified engine.

This is silliness. The EPA wasn’t elected by anyone.

[shock]

https://www.sema.org/news-media/enews/2021/12/update-semas-legal-fight-against-epa-overreach

[1972Shocker]

Dear Professor XYZ,

I am surprised that you think it difficult to persuade people about Global Warming. I do it all the time, based on the science.

The secret is learning the science, which can be daunting, given its complexity. But there are techniques for cutting through that complexity, at least as far as Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming is concerned. You merely examine the hypothesis and calculated consequences to see if they align with the data.

The hypothesis is not merely warming, but warming connected to man-made carbon dioxide. Most people realize that many things can cause warming of the atmosphere, most notably the El Nino Southern Oscillation (ENSO) warming of the equatorial Pacific off of Peru. That produced the Super El Ninos of 1998 and 2016, where the Global Temperature and Global Temperature Anomaly set records for the satellite era. No one who understands that our oceans contain the vast majority of mobile heat on this planet would try to trace that warming back to man-made CO2. Yet people do all the time, making your task far more difficult.

The “Gee, it’s hot today” approach is sooo obviously flawed that you constantly reinforce skepticism when you talk only about constantly varying air temperatures. We live on a fluid planet, where the fluids are never in complete equilibrium, leading to vast variations in climate over time scales from hours to days, weeks, years, and even centuries. Those are completely natural variations.

Why not consider using the Obama Administration’s “Three Lines of Evidence” to argue that carbon dioxide is a hazard. They used these three points to successfully argue for their Endangerment Finding at the EPA.

1) Unusual Warming since the end of WW2, when human emissions of CO2 increased dramatically.

2) Existence of a “Hot Spot” in the tropical mid-troposphere, where the warming from CO2 is supposed to set off a large amplification of warming from water vapor because water vapor is the major greenhouse and climate gas.

3) Finally, the many climate models keep track of all the climate complexity and predict dramatic warming.

I like these points because they are succinct and easy to test. If true, they would go a long way to convincing everyone to give up skepticism.

Here are the results:

1) For the first three decades after 1945, the global temperature anomaly trended downward. After the Great Pacific Climate Shift of 1977, it trended upward for two decades. Since the Super El Nino of 1998, there was another major El Nino in 2016, with the temperature anomaly returning to average this year. In other words, correlation with rising CO2 is substantially missing.

2) No “Hot Spot” in the tropical mid-troposphere has been found.

3) Climate models predict far more warming than has occurred over the satellite era. And they predict far less warming than occurred in the early 20th century up to the Dust Bowl of the 1930s. Even with hundreds of adjustable parameters, they still get it wrong! That is a stunning failure.

Even non-scientists can understand these simple arguments. And they respond dramatically to the truth. Three strikes and you are out in the old ball game.

As the former President of the US National Academy of Sciences, Ralph Cicerone, said “We don’t have that kind of evidence,” when asked about a possible catastrophe. He was an ardent warmer, but not an ardent propagandist.

Gordon J. Fulks, PhD


Gordon J. Fulks, Ph.D. is a physicist, originally from the University of Chicago’s Laboratory for Astrophysics and Space Research. He is currently one of the Directors of the CO2 Coalition, a group of prominent scientists and economists who point out that carbon dioxide and water vapor are the entirely beneficial byproducts of our civilization.

[pinstripers]

[Shock Top]

[SB Shock]

well boys and girls - we are doomed.

US climate envoy John Kerry has said there are 100 days to save the next 100 years as he called on China to increase the speed of its efforts to cut carbon emissions.

and believe it not, the climate will also affect how severe covid will be

He went on to say he was “very sorry” to say the suffering of Covid will be magnified “many times over in a world that does not grapple with and ultimately halt the climate crisis.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/climate-change-100-days-john-kerry-b946792.html

[SB Shock]

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https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-ford-f-150-lightning-electric-reservations-preorders/

Ford Takes in More Than 44,500 F-150 Lightning Orders in 48 Hours

The electric F-150 is generating plenty of interest.

Love the move towards electric vehicles. Uncle Joe loosened the purse strings again on incentives. As city traffic becomes more and more electric, the air is going to be cleaner to breathe. Can't argue with that being a bad thing.

[Shockm]

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022...ons-preorders/

Ford Takes in More Than 44,500 F-150 Lightning Orders in 48 Hours

The electric F-150 is generating plenty of interest.

Love the move towards electric vehicles. Uncle Joe loosened the purse strings again on incentives. As city traffic becomes more and more electric, the air is going to be cleaner to breathe. Can't argue with that being a bad thing.

It's good you like them because the cost of gasoline is going up because of Uncle Joe's policies on the oil businesses, and jobs are going down.