Sub's Alternative Energy Thread

[ShockerPrez]

I like how the dude steps in and basically says, "Let me handle this, senator". Then just throws him on his ass. Reminds me of the scene in airplane when they all get in line to beat on the psychotic lady.

[Kung Wu]

I like how the dude steps in and basically says, "Let me handle this, senator". Then just throws him on his ass. Reminds me of the scene in airplane when they all get in line to beat on the psychotic lady.

What would happen if a Republican senator's thug had thrown a climate protestor down on his ass?

[Atxshoxfan]

I believe this was done in 1978

[asiseeit]

good one

[SubGod22]

This obviously could only be done on this level in a relatively few areas, but it seems like a great avenue for areas that it could work in.

Liverpool is Building the World's Largest Tidal Power Project to Power a Million Homes

The River Mersey and the Bay of Liverpool are the largest assets this famous English city possesses, and attempting to beat the British government to a net-zero economy, Liverpool City Region have entered phase 3 planning stage to build the largest tidal power plant on Earth.

Schemes to harness the predictable power of the tides in Liverpool Bay date back to 1924, and with one of the largest tidal ranges of any coastal city in the UK, government utility Mersey Tidal Power believe that they can power 1 million homes and protect the city from floodwaters, all without disturbing the local estuarine ecosystem.

Mersey Tidal Power have released precious little information on the plans thus far, but Eletrek reports that a large dam would be a barrier between the Irish Sea and a tidal basin. Underneath the dam would be large turbines and sluice gates which would open as the tide comes in, pulling water onto the turbines to generate energy.

The gates would close as the 10-meter-high tide finishes, and as the gravity of the moon begins to pull on the water four hours later, the gates would open, causing it to rush past the turbines a second time, generating more clean energy.

“I think that we have a unique opportunity to harness the power of our greatest natural assets—our river and our people—to deliver a cleaner, greener, more prosperous future for our children,” said Liverpool mayor Steve Rotherham.

Tidal power projects are few and far between in both scale and reliability, but like geothermal power, they offer an alternative to sun and wind power which can be interrupted by weather conditions.

[1972Shocker]

Climate: The Movie (The Cold Truth)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmfRG8-RHEI

1 hour, 20 minute documentary/opinion piece. I found it to be pretty interesting and informative.

[ShockerPrez]

Climate: The Movie (The Cold Truth)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmfRG8-RHEI

1 hour, 20 minute documentary/opinion piece. I found it to be pretty interesting and informative.

I watched it as well. I found it hilarious trying to find it on youtube when I first heard about it, as it is hidden by yutube Pretty much common sense stuff if one was to critically think about the topic. Eliminating debate, especially with science should always be a red flag.

[SubGod22]

New Solar-Powered Desalinator Keeps Producing Clean Water Without Needing Sunshine

Scientists have developed a new solar-powered system to convert saltwater into fresh drinking water which they say could help reduce dangerous the risk of waterborne diseases like cholera.

Via tests in rural communities, they showed that the process is more than 20% cheaper than traditional methods and can be deployed in rural locations around the globe.

Building on existing processes that convert saline groundwater to freshwater, the researchers from King’s College London, in collaboration with MIT and the Helmholtz Institute for Renewable Energy Systems, created a new system that produced consistent levels of water using solar power, and reported it in a paper published recently in Nature Water

It works through a process called electrodialysis which separates the salt using a set of specialized membranes that channel salt ions into a stream of brine, leaving the water fresh and drinkable. By flexibly adjusting the voltage and the rate at which salt water flowed through the system, the researchers developed a system that adjusts to variable sunshine while not compromising on the amount of fresh drinking water produced.

Using data first gathered in the village of Chelleru near Hyderabad in India, and then recreating these conditions of the village in New Mexico, the team successfully converted up to 10 cubic meters, or several bathtubs worth of fresh drinking water. This was enough for 3,000 people a day with the process continuing to run regardless of variable solar power caused by cloud coverage and rain.

Dr. Wei He from the Department of Engineering at King’s College London believes the new technology could bring massive benefits to rural communities, not only increasing the supply of drinking water but also bringing health benefits.

“By offering a cheap, eco-friendly alternative that can be operated off the grid, our technology enables communities to tap into alternative water sources (such as deep aquifers or saline water) to address water scarcity and contamination in traditional water supplies,” said He.

“This technology can expand water sources available to communities beyond traditional ones and by providing water from uncontaminated saline sources, may help combat water scarcity or unexpected emergencies when conventional water supplies are disrupted, for example like the recent cholera outbreaks in Zambia.”

In the global rural population, 1.6 billion people face water scarcity, many of whom are reliant on stressed reserves of groundwater lying beneath the Earth’s surface.

However, worldwide 56% of groundwater is saline and unsuitable for consumption. This issue is particularly prevalent in India, where 60% of the land harbors undrinkable saline water. Consequently, there is a pressing need for efficient desalination methods to create fresh drinking water cheaply, and at scale.

Sounds like there's also a goal to implement this in the agricultural industry in developed countries to increase the usable water supply they need for irrigation and such and to reduce the need to use fossil fuels for such. Seems like a potential win/win for everyone if MIT and company can pull it off on that scale. It would also potentially free up energy use for other areas.

[Atxshoxfan]

New Solar-Powered Desalinator Keeps Producing Clean Water Without Needing Sunshine



Sounds like there's also a goal to implement this in the agricultural industry in developed countries to increase the usable water supply they need for irrigation and such and to reduce the need to use fossil fuels for such. Seems like a potential win/win for everyone if MIT and company can pull it off on that scale. It would also potentially free up energy use for other areas.

Problem with anything like this, is that our Government agencies see a glimmer of hope that it may work, so they mandate its use for everyone before it is fully feasible and they use no cost to the public in their decision making on these matters.

[ShockTalk]

We're not the only country having people who question "New and Safer" energy. Also, having the ability of national news outlets being fair and objective. A fairly long news article, but it brings up more about the positives versus negatives of wind turbines as it goes along. Didn't know about the BPA particles.

Farmer Grant Piper slams ABC for 'hiding the truth' about wind turbines, claiming it selectively edited a 7.30 story (msn.com)

[asiseeit]

Cutting thru all the BS global warming is a hoax on our dumbed down population, Secondly, even if there is do any of you really believe our incompetent gov't could do anything about it? The whole idea is just being used by the elitists to soak the general public and empower themselves

[Atxshoxfan]

Cutting thru all the BS global warming is a hoax on our dumbed down population, Secondly, even if there is do any of you really believe our incompetent gov't could do anything about it? The whole idea is just being used by the elitists to soak the general public and empower themselves

I read somewhere that green energy companies have been subsidized over $35,000,000,000 ( that's billions) over the past few years. Inflation sucks more tax dollars from us by way of state and local sales taxes and the feds get more of our tax dollars at the pump. So government makes more, green energy is getting richer by the hour all at the expense of tax payers, who will be required to spend even more to accommodate the attacks on all appliances and vehicles.
In contrast the oil industry subsidies over the same time frame was at $1,000,000,000 (billion) . Way too high but at least 35 times less than the green energy sector.
Feds don't spend money like it's the citizens money. They spend it like it's grains of sand from the Sahara dessert. Keeps their buddies in the big bucks who generally feed some back to their favorite politicians.

[SubGod22]

Will be interested to see how it actually performs once it's fully functional and ready to go. They claim the car will have a range of 1,000 miles.

The Car Fueled Entirely by the Sun Takes Huge Step Towards Production

One of the most hotly anticipated concept cars in recent history, the Aptera solar-powered car took a large step towards reality recently as the first-ever production-grade body arrived at the company’s headquarters in San Diego.

This three-wheeler is advertised as containing 34 square feet of solar paneling that actually powers the car as it drives or while it’s parked, but so many aspects are completely new in a commercial automobile designed for mass production that extra precautions and preparations are needed before it can hit the road.

“We had so much fun last week celebrating a company milestone—the arrival of Aptera’s first production body in San Diego,” the company wrote in a post on X. “Now Team Aptera is back to work finalizing the cable routing, connectors, and placement of components in preparation for our first [production-intent] builds.”

According to Elektrek, the company has ordered all the parts for its production-intent battery packs, and other non-structural components are currently being “validated” in Italy by the company’s supply partner.

The suspension, safety equipment, and drivetrain are yet to be finalized for production models. Still, the company has gone further than many before them, because the design they are currently finalizing is not meant to be an eye-raiser or science project, like some GNN has reported on.

When the PI-2 Aptera solar trike is finally ready, it will be because the company is producing 10,000 a year.

Despite looking as dramatic as any Pagani or Lamborghini, the Aptera’s tapered backside, aerodynamic body, and arched, dolphin-like undercarriage are all designed to reduce drag.

In fact, the detail paid to the reduction of drag and energy use borders on obsessive. But it’s through this ultra-efficiency that solar power, a relatively limited form of electricity generation, can actually become a useful feature for powering a car.

It can also be plugged in and charged like an EV.

[SubGod22]

I read somewhere that green energy companies have been subsidized over $35,000,000,000 ( that's billions) over the past few years. Inflation sucks more tax dollars from us by way of state and local sales taxes and the feds get more of our tax dollars at the pump. So government makes more, green energy is getting richer by the hour all at the expense of tax payers, who will be required to spend even more to accommodate the attacks on all appliances and vehicles.
In contrast the oil industry subsidies over the same time frame was at $1,000,000,000 (billion) . Way too high but at least 35 times less than the green energy sector.
Feds don't spend money like it's the citizens money. They spend it like it's grains of sand from the Sahara dessert. Keeps their buddies in the big bucks who generally feed some back to their favorite politicians.

According to the US Senate Committee on the Budget, the oil industry in the US alone is subsidized at a rate of $646 billion a year. Worldwide is over $5 trillion according to them as well.

I pretty much hate all subsidies, but let's at least be consistent and honest about them. If you hate green energy getting $35B, you must really hate fossil fuels getting $646B.

[pinstripers]

not the same at all