Fact check on Obama's "jobs" bill

[Maggie]

Yeah, and I am sure it is worse.

I was forced, by Mrs. Maggie to watch Obama live last night (for the past 18 months - I tend to stick to transcripts - I wanted to watch The Wire). The man (Obama) conjured up so many strawmen it should have been declared a fire hazard. He knocked them down with great relish - gee unique. It was a retro speech - 2008.

I have no tolerance for this man's words any more. The best recap of the speech is as follows: "Spend $450 billion now, it will create jobs :roll:, and I'll tell you how I'm going to pay for it a week from Monday. If you disagree, you want to expose kids to mercury". Nuff said.

It was a good speech for what he wanted to accomplish, gotta admit that.

Parts were fine. But I am not a fool. Unlike you. Sorry.

No. No you sit down. You should sit down and take a beat - think. Not that it matters - not that you will. But:

I fear many things (you help confirm that fear). Sorry, but I am going to be a real ass now.....you are ignorant, self indulgent, self rightness, and arrogant without cause.

Listen and learn - listen

Immediately calling me a fool for saying that his speech accomplished what he wanted to accomplish and not including any kind of political inclination at all?

You seem to continuously be waking up on the wrong side of the bed.

If you want to continue calling me ignorant and stupid because it makes you feel better than by all means continue.

it doesn't make me feel better. And I have been very, very cranky of late. Sorry, I was out of line.

[SubGod22]

Ignore Costly, Unneeded Plan

[SubGod22]

Ben Franklin Skewers Obama's Jobs Proposal

Ben Franklin's essay, "On the Price of Corn and the Management of the Poor," directly responds to President Obama's jobs proposals. And indeed, it nearly encapsulates the entire message we conservatives have for our president on the matter of taxing the wealthy and addressing poverty.

Suffice it to say, Benjamin Franklin would have been among the vilified rich today. He was a private landowner who wanted the British government to leave him to his own successful devices. But his critics in the king's press negatively branded him a wealthy "Farmer" (which could be considered equivalent to the term "corporate fat cat" by 18th-century standards) and was called upon to pay his "fair share," via depressed pricing in a government-controlled market, to see that the beleaguered "Manufacturers" could be uplifted.

And as our modern-day wealthy Americans have been criticized for the lavish spending on corporate jets and the like, so too was Franklin. In response to the charges vilifying the usage of his own personal property and money, Franklin retorts:

Are we Farmers the only people to be grudged the profits of honest labour? And why? One of the late scribblers against us gives a bill of fare of the provisions at my daughter's wedding, and proclaims to all the world that we had the insolence to eat beef and pudding! Has he never read that precept in the good book, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn; or does he think us less worthy of good living than our oxen?

Quite an interesting read. I've read the full essay by Franklin and it is rather fitting with what's going on now.