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    Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000
    The Obama administration has decided to drop the number of U.S. troops in Iraq at the end of the year down to 3,000, marking a major downgrade in force strength, multiple sources familiar with the inner workings and decisions on U.S. troop movements in Iraq told Fox News.

    Senior commanders are said to be livid at the decision, which has already been signed off by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta.

    The generals on the ground had requested that the number of troops remaining in Iraq at the end of the year reach about 27,000. But, there was major pushback about "the cost and the political optics" of that decision that the number was then reduced to 10,000.

    Commanders said they could possibly make that work "in extremis," in other words, meaning they would be pushing it to make that number work security-wise and manpower-wise.

    Now, sources confirm that the administration has pushed the Pentagon to cut the number even lower, and commanders are concerned for the safety of the U.S. troops who would remain there.

    "We can't secure everybody with only 3,000 on the ground nor can we do what we need to with the Iraqis," one source said.
    Such a drastic difference from what the commanders feel they need. 24,000 fewer troops than they asked for sends a message. That message is that Obama needs to make his base as happy as possible with an election right around the corner.
    "There is almost no room for security operations in that number; it will be almost purely a training mission," this official said. The official added that a very small number of troops within that 3,000 will be dedicated to counter-terrorism efforts, but that's not nearly what Gen. Lloyd Austin, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, wanted.

    This shift is seen by various people as a cost-saving measure and a political measure. The only administration official fighting for at least 10,000 forces to stay in Iraq at the end of the year was Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, sources said. But she has lost the battle.

    Responding to the news, Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., who has traveled to Iraq many times, said that in all the conversations he has had on force strength, he has "never heard a number as low as 3,000 troops to secure the gains Iraqis have won over the years."
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    If you're going that low...it would be better to just bring 'em all home.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by NCAABound
      If you're going that low...it would be better to just bring 'em all home.
      That low of a number right now doesn't do anyone any good. Troops would be more at risk that way and would be better off just being pulled out completely. However, this also risks Iraq to the influences of Iran. Iraq still has a ways to go but is making progress.

      U.S. Commanders Pushing for Permission to Run Covert Ops to Counter Iran
      U.S. military commanders and intelligence officers are pushing for greater authority to conduct covert operations to thwart Iranian influence in neighboring Iraq, according to officials quoted Tuesday.

      The move comes amid growing concern in the Obama administration about Iran's attempts in recent months to expand its influence in Iraq and the broader Middle East and what it says is Tehran's increased arms smuggling to its allies, The Wall Street Journal reported.

      Compounding the urgency is the planned reduction in the US military presence in Iraq by the end of the year, a development that many fear will open up the country to more influence from Iran, which also has a majority Shiite population.

      If the request is approved by the White House, the authorization for the covert activity in Iraq likely would take the form of a classified presidential "finding." But unlike the secret order that authorized the CIA's campaign against Al Qaeda in 2001, the current proposal is limited in scope, officials said.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by NCAABound
        If you're going that low...it would be better to just bring 'em all home.
        That is what I was thinking.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SB Shock
          Originally posted by NCAABound
          If you're going that low...it would be better to just bring 'em all home.
          That is what I was thinking.
          :good: 8)
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