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  • 2011 Winter Storms

    This time frame has some serious potential for a nice winter storm. Right now it is tricky forecast the exact track of the storm. There is a northern stream of the jet stream and a southern stream of the jet stream. The northern stream brings the cold air, and the southern stream brings the storm and the moisture. Ideally you would want these two streams of air to merge or "phase" together. When you get a complete phase of both jet streams powerful winter storms can happen. Right now weather models have shown multiple solutions happen. A complete phase, which right now the track appears to be through Southern OK, which is perfect for a great KS snow storm. To the southern stream of the jet stream hanging back in the SW and the Northern stream ejecting Eastward faster meaning the storm gets pushed all the way down into the gulf. To a solution where they partially phase and Ice becomes a concern for SC KS.


    The latest model runs have started to show almost a complete phase. I will update this thread tomorrow after some of tonights foreign models get a chance to run their course (pun intended).

    I leave with a precip map from one of tonights model runs.


    1 inch-1.25 inches of precipitation all in the Snow Form. 10-1 snow to water ratios mean that could be around 9-12 inches. Will that verify to that exact extent? Unlikely, but this is a timeframe to keep watching.
    The mountains are calling, and I must go.

  • #2
    Unfortunately it is starting to look like we might have some ice issues then adding a decent amount of snow on top of that ice.


    Here's to hoping it stays all snow....
    The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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      • #4
        Right now it is looking like Wichita might be in the dry slot.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SB Shock
          Right now it is looking like Wichita might be in the dry slot.
          Similar to spring severe weather setups. Some things never change.
          Deuces Valley.
          ... No really, deuces.
          ________________
          "Enjoy the ride."

          - a smart man

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          • #6
            Any updated models on this? I would enjoy a late january snow storm.

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            • #7
              4-6 inches for Wichita - 6-12 for points east.

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              • #8
                Wichita is now in a winter storm watch. The latest models have moved the action back to the west.

                The ice storm is expected to be further SE



                Probabilities for >6+ inches.



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                • #9
                  Winter storm watch has now just changed to winter storm warning. West of I-35 4-5 inches, east of I-35 6-8 inches with 9-14 inches in SE kansas.

                  Winds 20-35 MPH with widespread blowing and drifting.

                  Potential icing starting sunday night of 1/10 to 1/4 inch into Monday morning.

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                  • #10
                    WSWarning up for all of eastern Kansas.

                    You do NOT want to be in SE Kansas as this storm moves through, they will have ice and then just get toppled with snow.

                    The problem with this storm, and most winter storms actually, is is the precipitation gradient is extreme. 20 miles East or West might mean a 4 inch snow total difference.
                    The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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                    • #11
                      This afternoons North American Model run with precipitation.



                      Right now what the NWS is saying is a good bet.

                      Look at the precip Gradient and the amount of Precipitation shown to fall in Greenwood, Elk, Chataqua, Woodson counties and all of SE Kansas.
                      The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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                      • #12
                        Time sensative image links








                        The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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                        • #13
                          well, hell.

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                          • #14
                            Someone is gonna get screwed though, West wichita might get 2 inches while east wichita might get 6.

                            The gradient on precipitation is gonna be that tight, now the challenge is finding where the edge of the band and therefore the tightest gradient will set up.

                            EDIT: latest thoughts from NWS ICT.

                            The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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                            • #15
                              sucks
                              I have come here to chew bubblegum and kickass ... and I'm all out of bubblegum.

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