KC Chiefs - Preseason Edition

[The Mad Hatter]

Berry hasn't excited me. If he pans out, great. If not....I won't be shocked.

He'll get plenty of opportunities to pad his stats on D as he'll be on the field about twice as much as the offense.

How much of a chance did you get to watch him play at Tennessee? Whenever I watched the Vols play, he always looked like the best player on the field. He seemed to be everywhere at once.

He and McCluster weren't on the greatest teams, but every time I saw both of them play, they looked like elite playmakers against SEC competition. Maybe neither will pan out at the next level, but what I saw of them gave me more reason to be excited than skeptical.

[newshock1234]

It was a no brainer for the Chiefs to pick Berry, he was the best player available and he filled the teams biggest need. The safety play last year was atrocious. Berry is a flat out play maker. I remember watching him, he was a true freshmen and ran a pick 6 off Tim Tebow for almost a 100 yards. JMO I really think Berry will be a fan favorite by the end of the season.

[newshock1234]

Training Camp Report 2

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/training-camp-practice-2-report.html#more-14614

[SB Shock]

Wow.....I was thinking they drafted Barry as a shutdown CB.....SAFTEY makes it even worse.

I really doubt that the Ravens regretted centering their defense around Ed Reed or the Steelers around Troy Polamalu. The safety position has changed to the point that a star safety can be as important a playmaker on the field as any defender. Berry has been described as a guy with Reed or Polamalu type talent, and if he lives up to that billing (and having watched him at Tennessee I think he will) he will be well worth the money.

Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu was surrounded by several other pro-bowl players on their teams. If he is pro-bowl talented type player then I my opinion will probably change and agree he will be worth it - but the Chiefs don't have a very good track record on the draft.

There may be moves to criticize about the Chiefs, but criticizing the Berry pick (which most analysts considered a good pick) and not even knowing what position he plays doesn't do much to make you look like a very strong authority on the subject of NFL football.

key word is "most". I admit I was thinking he was CB, I guess I can't get my head around drafting a S when there are so many other positions that the Chiefs suck at - even Pioli admitted he doesn't like taking Safety in the first round.

[tgcshock]

The fact that Pioli doesn't like drafting safeties in the first round suggests that Pioli views Berry as a unique gamechanging type talent rather than just a really good positional player. I have to say, whenever I watched Tennessee play on TV Berry consistently did things that amazed me. Saw him on one play where the ball was thrown fairly hard on an intermediate route over the middle and after the ball was released he left his man and went to help the corner who was clearly beat. When the ball left the QB's hand I was thinking it would be a tremendous play just to catch the receiver from behind and make the tackle to limit the gain. What stunned me was that Berry got there and actually knocked the ball away before it arrived. His ability to make up ground on a throw is remarkable. There is no such thing as a "sure thing" in the NFL but he looks as close to it as anyone coming out of the draft this year. Helps that he has a great work ethic and leadership skills to go with the talent. I'm thrilled with the pick.

[newshock1234]

Yes, Pioli did say he dont like taking safety that high, but at the time he said, it was right around draft time, and it obviously a smoke screen.

[newshock1234]

Wow.....I was thinking they drafted Barry as a shutdown CB.....SAFTEY makes it even worse.

I really doubt that the Ravens regretted centering their defense around Ed Reed or the Steelers around Troy Polamalu. The safety position has changed to the point that a star safety can be as important a playmaker on the field as any defender. Berry has been described as a guy with Reed or Polamalu type talent, and if he lives up to that billing (and having watched him at Tennessee I think he will) he will be well worth the money.

Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu was surrounded by several other pro-bowl players on their teams. If he is pro-bowl talented type player then I my opinion will probably change and agree he will be worth it - but the Chiefs don't have a very good track record on the draft.

There may be moves to criticize about the Chiefs, but criticizing the Berry pick (which most analysts considered a good pick) and not even knowing what position he plays doesn't do much to make you look like a very strong authority on the subject of NFL football.

key word is "most". I admit I was thinking he was CB, I guess I can't get my head around drafting a S when there are so many other positions that the Chiefs suck at - even Pioli admitted he doesn't like taking Safety in the first round.

Both Polamalu and Reed were hurt for long periods of time last year, and when they went down, both Pittsburg and Baltimore Defense was pretty average.

[newshock1234]

good article about Berry's Character

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/07/31/2120398/chiefs-berry-shows-character-when.html

[newshock1234]

Camp Buzz

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/07/31/2120407/chiefs-camp-buzz-bowe-putting.html

[SB Shock]

The fact that Pioli doesn't like drafting safeties in the first round suggests that Pioli views Berry as a unique gamechanging type talent rather than just a really good positional player.

If it is true that Pioli and his staff truly see Berry as uniquely talented individual and it pans out to be true then I will gladly eat some crow on the pick and will be happy.

But I must admit my opinion of the KC organization is bit jaded with their draft record. But the hope of Chief fan has to be that that some of their past No. 1 finally get it and all have their breakout season this year.

[SB Shock]

Both Polamalu and Reed were hurt for long periods of time last year, and when they went down, both Pittsburg and Baltimore Defense was pretty average.

Is that what you call the No. 3 Scoring defense in the NFL (Ravens) - pretty average? Pitts was ranked 12th which is above average.

Pittsburgh was ranked 5th in total defense, Ravens were 3rd. Pittsburgh was ranked 2nd in sacks (Ravens 18th). Pittsburgh pretty much didn't have a healthy Polamalu for any of the season. He sat out the final 7 games because he was afraid of hurting his knee again - and the word on him is he's a injury risk for the 2010 season.

Pittsburgh season was did in when they lost 5 games in row by 6 points or less. Pittsburgh problem was more offense related than defense (Rothlesberger hurt or throwing int or being sacked) - though Pittsburgh loss to Oakland was inexcusable.

Ravens were 2-2 when Reed was out, but their loss to GB was because they committed 4 turnovers (two in the redzone) and 135 yards in penalties. Ravens other loss was to the Polamalu-less Steelers.

Steelers won that game when their 2nd year Pro-bowl OLB sacked Ravens QB on consecutive plays on the Ravens final drive with the Ravens driving into Pittsburgh terriortory. Ravens offense shot themselves in the foot with penalties that took away 2 TD's.

[newshock1234]

The fact that Pioli doesn't like drafting safeties in the first round suggests that Pioli views Berry as a unique gamechanging type talent rather than just a really good positional player.

If it is true that Pioli and his staff truly see Berry as uniquely talented individual and it pans out to be true then I will gladly eat some crow on the pick and will be happy.

But I must admit my opinion of the KC organization is bit jaded with their draft record. But the hope of Chief fan has to be that that some of their past No. 1 finally get it and all have their breakout season this year.

We are starting the 2nd year of Pioli regime, anything that was picked before that, you really have throw out the door when your evaluating this regime.

[newshock1234]

im teling you, pittsburg and baltimore defense was not the same when their star safeties went down.

[lostshocker]

im teling you, pittsburg and baltimore defense was not the same when their star safeties went down.

that was mentioned during some of their games on tv by the announcers. they also went as far to say that not having their star safeties also led to decreased efficiency by the offenses. (dont ask me just relating what i remember hearing) something to the effect of not having them in the lineup affected the confidence of the entire team and not just the defense.

[SB Shock]

The fact that Pioli doesn't like drafting safeties in the first round suggests that Pioli views Berry as a unique gamechanging type talent rather than just a really good positional player.

If it is true that Pioli and his staff truly see Berry as uniquely talented individual and it pans out to be true then I will gladly eat some crow on the pick and will be happy.

But I must admit my opinion of the KC organization is bit jaded with their draft record. But the hope of Chief fan has to be that that some of their past No. 1 finally get it and all have their breakout season this year.

We are starting the 2nd year of Pioli regime, anything that was picked before that, you really have throw out the door when your evaluating this regime.

True. But the Chiefs most productive draft was the 2008 draft. BTW, the last time the Chiefs have drafted a pro-bowl player was in 2004 with Jared Allen.