Nice to see our tax dollars go for something useful ...

[Ixiah]

Paying teachers to do quite literally nothing for years! :shock:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/22/new-york-teachers-paid-to_n_219336.html

[Maggie]

Old news and it is actually worse – lets just say I no longer feel sorry for public school teachers or administrators or any “public servant” for that matter when they complain about “low pay”. :roll:

Ladies and gentlemen of this fine forum, I don’t care whether you’re liberal or conservative, libertarian or Rastafarian: That’s a lousy way to run a school system — don’t you think?

[RoyalShock]

From watching what is happening in education in NY and CA, it should be pretty clear that their models are anything but progressive - at least to anyone other than a "progressive".

[CharlieHog]

key phrase:

Because their union contract

[rrshock]

key phrase:

Because their union contract

Maybe that contract needs to be reworked. Or the NY school system needs to be trimmed down into smaller ones so that it doesn't take 3 years to decide on disciplinary action.

[SHOCKvalue]

Heck, I'm married to a teacher, and I don't feel bad for her one bit. Her total package of salary, benefits, and vacation/personal days is quite fair. Nothing you'll get rich on, but fair to say the least.

For example, a couple comprised of two first-year USD 259 teachers will have a household income that comes in just under the 75th percentile nationally. If you annualized their salary to take into consideration the summer free time for additional work, it's even more eye-opening. That same couple, if given a few years of experience (<10) and intelligent use of the summer break, will break six-figures. Again, not boat-loads of money, but certainly nothing like the chicken scratch they make it out to be. Plenty of income to live a decent life in an area with our cost of living indexes.

The "under-paid, over-worked" stereotype the teachers' union wants you desperately to buy into, is a laugher of a concept, at least around here.

Oh, and not all educators are union-loving, closet socialists. Believe me.

FWIW...

[rZ]

Heck, I'm married to a teacher, and I don't feel bad for her one bit. Her total package of salary, benefits, and vacation/personal days is quite fair. Nothing you'll get rich on, but fair to say the least.

For example, a couple comprised of two first-year USD 259 teachers will have a household income that comes in just under the 75th percentile nationally. If you annualized their salary to take into consideration the summer free time for additional work, it's even more eye-opening. That same couple, if given a few years of experience (<10) and intelligent use of the summer break, will break six-figures. Again, not boat-loads of money, but certainly nothing like the chicken scratch they make it out to be. Plenty of income to live a decent life in an area with our cost of living indexes.

The "under-paid, over-worked" stereotype the teachers' union wants you desperately to buy into, is a laugher of a concept, at least around here.

Oh, and not all educators are union-loving, closet socialists. Believe me.

FWIW...

In saying this, understand that I taught at the university level. That being said, the first year of teaching was by far the most difficult and time consuming job that I have ever had.

FWIW.....being an educator is not the simple task some make it out to be, especially if you take your job seriously and demand a great deal from your students.

P.S.

Out of work teacher (thanks economy!) needs job. Management experience!

[wu_shizzle]

Heck, I'm married to a teacher, and I don't feel bad for her one bit. Her total package of salary, benefits, and vacation/personal days is quite fair. Nothing you'll get rich on, but fair to say the least.

For example, a couple comprised of two first-year USD 259 teachers will have a household income that comes in just under the 75th percentile nationally. If you annualized their salary to take into consideration the summer free time for additional work, it's even more eye-opening. That same couple, if given a few years of experience (<10) and intelligent use of the summer break, will break six-figures. Again, not boat-loads of money, but certainly nothing like the chicken scratch they make it out to be. Plenty of income to live a decent life in an area with our cost of living indexes.

The "under-paid, over-worked" stereotype the teachers' union wants you desperately to buy into, is a laugher of a concept, at least around here.

Oh, and not all educators are union-loving, closet socialists. Believe me.

FWIW...

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