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    A pastor on Good Friday who had some friends over at his house for dinner and bible study were told by San Diego County employees that it "unlawful use of land" and were told to stop or buy a permit for thousands of $$$.



    "Do you have a regular weekly meeting in your home? Do you sing? Do you say 'amen'?" the official reportedly asked. "Do you say, 'Praise the Lord'?"

    The pastor's wife answered yes.

    She says she was then told, however, that she must stop holding "religious assemblies" until she and her husband obtain a Major Use Permit from the county, a permit that often involves traffic and environmental studies, compliance with parking and sidewalk regulations and costs that top tens of thousands of dollars.
    A California pastor and his wife were visited on Good Friday by a local official who said they were breaking the law by holding a small weekly Bible study in their home.


    “It is no coincidence that the first thing any totalitarian state does is to regulate and control association, organisations and churches.

    “We need to be alert to this danger, and we need to defend the rights of churches and other organisations, not simply in order to defend religious freedom but in order to preserve freedom itself.”

  • #2
    Why did the neighbor complain? I didn't see that information in any of the stories.

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    • #3
      They just need to tell their local anti-liberty gov't that they're just having friends over for fellowship. If a Bible Study happens to break out, so be it.

      Clearly, those idiots (the county) have no common sense.

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      • #4
        I saw that story and couldn't believe it. But then I remembered it was in California and it was much more believable.
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        • #5
          This may be one parking complaint and a cop with an anti-Christian bias.

          Until I hear from someone other than the couples attorney, I'm not going to get worked up about it.

          What is surprising is how quickly email forwards are going around without any questioning of the entire situation. We believers need to be more "Berean" (Acts 17:11) and investigate to see if things told to us are true.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by wu_shizzle
            This may be one parking complaint and a cop with an anti-Christian bias.

            Until I hear from someone other than the couples attorney, I'm not going to get worked up about it.
            Is this good enough?

            Barraged by hundreds of complaints, San Diego County officials backed down yesterday from their enforcement.

            “No one respects the right to free religious expression more than I do, and no one would find the infringement of such rights more abhorrent,” county Chief Administrative Officer Walt Ekard said in a statement.

            Chandra Wallar, the county’s general manager of land use and environment, said the county has re-examined the situation and decided that the Joneses don’t need a permit after all.

            Religious assembly, under the county land-use code, is defined as “religious services involving public assembly such as customarily occurs in synagogues, temples, and churches.”

            Wallar said that definition, which doesn’t spell out specific thresholds on when a religious gathering becomes a religious assembly, probably needs to be clarified and that more training may be warranted for code enforcement officers.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SB Shock
              Originally posted by wu_shizzle
              This may be one parking complaint and a cop with an anti-Christian bias.

              Until I hear from someone other than the couples attorney, I'm not going to get worked up about it.
              Is this good enough?

              Barraged by hundreds of complaints, San Diego County officials backed down yesterday from their enforcement.

              “No one respects the right to free religious expression more than I do, and no one would find the infringement of such rights more abhorrent,” county Chief Administrative Officer Walt Ekard said in a statement.

              Chandra Wallar, the county’s general manager of land use and environment, said the county has re-examined the situation and decided that the Joneses don’t need a permit after all.

              Religious assembly, under the county land-use code, is defined as “religious services involving public assembly such as customarily occurs in synagogues, temples, and churches.”

              Wallar said that definition, which doesn’t spell out specific thresholds on when a religious gathering becomes a religious assembly, probably needs to be clarified and that more training may be warranted for code enforcement officers.
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              Good to hear that even on the Left-Coast this can be resolved in a rational way.
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