The Mexico Problem

[martymoose]

Mexican Drug Lord on Forbes List

I'm in the wrong line of work...

[WuDrWu]

I'll be the first to admit I don't have the answer to this problem but I am fairly certain I know the difference between right and wrong.

I will never be convinced that legalizing drugs and taxing them is the answer.

I have yet to meet any regular drug user that will ever amount to ANYTHING but a drain on his family and our society.

May God help us all.

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

Maggie = :good: :good:

[SubGod22]

Congress Holds More Hearings On Border Violence

No Border Troops

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DHS has a plan...

[RoyalShock]

DHS has a plan...

As I read it, the plan is "We don't currently plan on doing anything".

[SubGod22]

DHS has a plan...

As I read it, the plan is "We don't currently plan on doing anything".

That's pretty much how I took it as well...

[SubGod22]

Cartels may be joining forces...

[jocoshock]

It probably isn't a popular option, but the best way to fight this would be to work with the Mexican government by sending US forces to Mexico to work with the Mexican army in crushing the drug cartels. I can guarantee it would be a better use of our money than the Iraq war and probably save more American lives.

I mostly agree.

I just think that the US criminalizing behavior where the only legally recognized victim is the perpetrator is self-defeating. Yes, the issue isn't quite that simple, but that is the heart of it.

The "drug war" has resulted in overcrowded prisons, log-jammed local court systems and tons of tax money being funneled to local law enforcement and Washington to fight it.

Think about it. We pay for law enforcement to find the drug-related criminals. Then we pay prosecutors and judges to put them in jail. Then we pay prison guards, food service workers and healthcare providers to keep them alive and healthy until they've paid their debt to . . . themselves?

How long before that same logic is used against the alcohol and cigarette industry? What about the fast food industry? Oh wait, I think NYC has already opened that can of worms.

Decriminalize it and add it to the many "sin" taxes already being levied.

If states want to fight it, that's their perogative (even if it doesn't make sense). But the feds have no business in it.

It's a bit ironic - this drug war. Many of the laws passed against Marijuana in the early 20th century were concocted as a way to get Mexican immigrants out of the country and/or discourage further immigration, with little or no scientific evidence backing up the dangers of its use. In the 1800s some states had laws requiring farmers to grow hemp.

http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_marijuana_in_the_United_States

Of course, legalizing marijuana won't stop the flow of hard drugs. Maybe we just hand over the drug business to Corporate America, like we did with casino gambling and tax it to "fund our public school system" :roll:

[kcshocker11]

It probably isn't a popular option, but the best way to fight this would be to work with the Mexican government by sending US forces to Mexico to work with the Mexican army in crushing the drug cartels. I can guarantee it would be a better use of our money than the Iraq war and probably save more American lives.

I mostly agree.

I just think that the US criminalizing behavior where the only legally recognized victim is the perpetrator is self-defeating. Yes, the issue isn't quite that simple, but that is the heart of it.

The "drug war" has resulted in overcrowded prisons, log-jammed local court systems and tons of tax money being funneled to local law enforcement and Washington to fight it.

Think about it. We pay for law enforcement to find the drug-related criminals. Then we pay prosecutors and judges to put them in jail. Then we pay prison guards, food service workers and healthcare providers to keep them alive and healthy until they've paid their debt to . . . themselves?

How long before that same logic is used against the alcohol and cigarette industry? What about the fast food industry? Oh wait, I think NYC has already opened that can of worms.

Decriminalize it and add it to the many "sin" taxes already being levied.

If states want to fight it, that's their perogative (even if it doesn't make sense). But the feds have no business in it.

It's a bit ironic - this drug war. Many of the laws passed against Marijuana in the early 20th century were concocted as a way to get Mexican immigrants out of the country and/or discourage further immigration, with little or no scientific evidence backing up the dangers of its use. In the 1800s some states had laws requiring farmers to grow hemp.

http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_marijuana_in_the_United_States

Of course, legalizing marijuana won't stop the flow of hard drugs. Maybe we just hand over the drug business to Corporate America, like we did with casino gambling and tax it to "fund our public school system" :roll:

or bailout social security or fund national healthcare. 8)

[SubGod22]

9 Bodies Found Near Border

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79% support US Forces being used

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ATF Agents Headed to Border

Military Preparing Plan

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Mexico Captures Son of Drug Lord

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US to Redirect Resources to Southern Border