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    Of all the Regents schools, our maintenance backlog is the lowest.

    KSU almost $300 million behind. Perhaps it's tough keeping those ancient buildings fit for learning.

  • #2
    And what do the other U's do with all the funding they get???
    Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
    RIP Guy Always A Shocker
    Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
    ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
    Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
    Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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    • #3
      $90M at KU Med???

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      • #4
        At KSU, all you need is an old barn to watch cows screw.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BenWSU
          At KSU, all you need is an old barn to watch cows screw.
          Please those arent cows their KSU Sorority babes! :D 8)
          I have come here to chew bubblegum and kickass ... and I'm all out of bubblegum.

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          • #6
            K-State is a joke. I am so sick of them riding the Big XII coat-tails. I hope WSU NEVER lowers themselves to play K-State in anything. Besides, based on their maintenance backlog, I'd be afraid to have any of our teams risk injury playing in their pot-licking buildings.
            There should be two major universities in Kansas, and KSU is not one of them.

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            • #7
              We have a much smaller campus.

              I'd be willing to bet that if we drilled down to backlog $$ / sq ft, it'd look a lot different. I'm sure we'd still be looking peachy in comparo, but not so much so as with those hard numbers.

              In other news, at least our campus can now call home to a 20 ton, brass-coated insect built by a puppy killer. Oh, wait... I forgot about the moral relativity of "art". I'll be back in a second, after I drop some "art" off at the porcelain throne.

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              • #8
                Didn't KU or KSU get hit by a tornado a year or two ago? That might have something to do with it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by martymoose
                  Didn't KU or KSU get hit by a tornado a year or two ago? That might have something to do with it.
                  That is a good point. It was KSU.

                  But to Ricky's point, I don't think KSU is six times larger in square footage than WSU. I just suspect it may be that our buildings are newer on average and that we probably do take care of them a little better.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RoyalShock
                    Originally posted by martymoose
                    Didn't KU or KSU get hit by a tornado a year or two ago? That might have something to do with it.
                    That is a good point. It was KSU.

                    But to Ricky's point, I don't think KSU is six times larger in square footage than WSU. I just suspect it may be that our buildings are newer on average and that we probably do take care of them a little better.
                    Then what explains $90M backlog for KU Med???

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BostonWu
                      Originally posted by RoyalShock
                      Originally posted by martymoose
                      Didn't KU or KSU get hit by a tornado a year or two ago? That might have something to do with it.
                      That is a good point. It was KSU.

                      But to Ricky's point, I don't think KSU is six times larger in square footage than WSU. I just suspect it may be that our buildings are newer on average and that we probably do take care of them a little better.
                      Then what explains $90M backlog for KU Med???
                      Self's and Mangino's salaries might have something to do with that.

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                      • #12
                        And it could be the Beggs is a better manager than Wefald and Hemenway.

                        With the initial list of "deferred maintenance" came out a few years ago, $1 million for Hemenway's house was on the list.

                        When ask about the impact of the pending budget cuts on KSU, Wefald said essentially that KSU would cease to exist as we know it. If that is truly the case, then Wefald is a really bad manager.

                        Beggs is better and being honest about things and does not demagogue things like Hemenway, Wefald and the members of the Regents do.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BostonWu
                          Originally posted by RoyalShock
                          Originally posted by martymoose
                          Didn't KU or KSU get hit by a tornado a year or two ago? That might have something to do with it.
                          That is a good point. It was KSU.

                          But to Ricky's point, I don't think KSU is six times larger in square footage than WSU. I just suspect it may be that our buildings are newer on average and that we probably do take care of them a little better.
                          Then what explains $90M backlog for KU Med???
                          Don't be fooled that these numbers truly reflect needs.

                          Legislators noted that KSU was highlight some old building that needed repair was the same building used for the same purpose 10 years earlier; as if KSU specifically didn't repair something just so they could use it to politic. KSU also had a building with epxosed electrical wire. So they are saying that within their hundred million dollar budget they can't find money to buy insulated wire.

                          WSU had some questionable things on the list too, like Eck Stadium.

                          Here is a partial list of the request (from 2006):
                          Report on State University Deferred and Annual Maintenance Fall 2006

                          KU

                          Sports
                          • Allen Field House $6,690,658
                          • Ansuhutz Sports Pavilion $1,456,799
                          • Horejsi Family Athletics Facility $33,690
                          • Memorial Stadium $198,768
                          • Wagnon Student Athlete Ctr. $681,980

                          Chancellor’s Residence
                          • Chancellor’s Guest House $45,117
                          • Chancellor’s Residence Garage $24,444
                          • Chancellor’s Residence $427,163

                          Private Aircraft Hangar
                          • Hangar No. 1 $955,506
                          • Hangar No. 2 $283,843

                          KSU

                          Sports
                          • Ahearn Field House $3,171,040
                          • Bill Snyder Family Stadium $2,438,495
                          • Bramlage Coliseum $1,403,825
                          • Gymnasium $3,327,434
                          • Vanier Football Complex $155,154
                          • West Stadium $1,898,009
                          • Gymnasium $561,913
                          • Boathouse $727,219

                          President’s Residence
                          • $266,727

                          WSU

                          Sports
                          • Eck Stadium $584,173
                          • Golf Maintenance $24,050
                          • Golf Pro Shop $36,757
                          • Sheldon Coleman Tennis Complex $69,570

                          President’s Residence
                          • $113,580

                          Original Pizza Hut
                          • $12,882

                          ESU

                          Sports
                          • P.E. Storage Bldg. Football $4,896
                          • P.E. Storage Blg. Football $1,181
                          • Recreation Field Restroom $3,771
                          • Welch Stadium $1,557,150

                          PSU

                          Sports
                          • Baseball Dugout NW $6,142
                          • Baseball Dugout SE $6,142
                          • Baseball/Softball Concessions $12,626
                          • Baseball/Softball $107,785
                          • Baseball/Softball $6,965
                          • Softball Dugout NW $3,371
                          • Softball Dugout SE $16,127

                          President’s Residence
                          • $211,018

                          FSU

                          Sports
                          • Softball Field Pressbox $1,487

                          Presidents Residence
                          • $84,483

                          Lawns, Trees & Shrubs (in addition to money already being spent on lawns trees and shrubs)

                          KU = $1,206,179
                          KU Med = $19,404
                          KSU = $224,694
                          WSU = $175,479
                          ESU = $318,688
                          PSU = $46,181
                          FSU = $43,586

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                          • #14
                            I think tornado damage would be covered by insurance. Older buildings should have been budgeted correctly for preventive maintenance and the work completed.
                            It might be that KSU comingled or converted the money for another department and figured the Regents would bail them out at the expense of WSU or other state supported schools.
                            Sooner or later the state politicians and leaders of Wichita & WSU need to realize that this state should place priority of investments into KU and WSU. KSU has its place in an agri-state, but certainly not at the expense of the state's largest urban university.

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                            • #15
                              ABC, those are interesting line items. WSU still looks awfully good in comparison.

                              But what are those turds in Manhattan trying to pull?

                              • Gymnasium $3,327,434 ???
                              • West Stadium $1,898,009 ???
                              • Gymnasium $561,913 ???

                              And the turds in Lawrence?

                              • Allen Field House $6,690,658 (Almost 7mil for maintenance???)


                              It seems WSU is at least using good faith estimates. KSU and KU are in perpetual money-grab mode.

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