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  • #31
    Every so often I think about moving back to Kansas, then I read a thread like this and I remember why I left the dark ages.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by GarH
      Every so often I think about moving back to Kansas, then I read a thread like this and I remember why I left the dark ages.
      I guess those of us who believe in freedom, capitalism, God, the right to bear arms, and a fair tax system instead of income re-distribution are living in the dark ages?
      I hope you enjoy your socialist utopia where ever it is, just do us a favor and don't come back.
      Kick 'em square in the grapes! (that can be very painful)

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      • #33
        Originally posted by GarH
        Every so often I think about moving back to Kansas, then I read a thread like this and I remember why I left the dark ages.

        Wow, can you spell condescending?
        Talent is God given. Be humble. Fame is man-given. Be grateful. Conceit is self-given. Be careful. John Wooden

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        • #34
          Originally posted by shocrates
          Originally posted by GarH
          Every so often I think about moving back to Kansas, then I read a thread like this and I remember why I left the dark ages.

          Wow, can you spell condescending?
          I've heard lots of people say that over and over. He's right. Kansas is still stuck in the dark ages. It just let all the other pass it by.

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          • #35
            Regardless of your religious affiliation... this is good!!
            Wow, didn't know there were 67 million Catholics in America.

            "Vote Your Conscience"

            Vote 2008!


            "I hope all of you will go to this site and see what the Catholics have done to encourage their 67 million people to vote on Election Day. They don’t tell them how to vote but they sure do get their message across. It should be shown in every church across America ...Catholic and Protestant. It's only 3 1/2 minutes long so please take time to watch."

            Click here:



            No, I'm not catholic... I just feel this video should be shared.



            :good: :good:
            SFL is back!

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            • #36
              Kansas is in the dark ages but most political views of most Kansas people I actually do agree with.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by GarH
                Every so often I think about moving back to Kansas, then I read a thread like this and I remember why I left the dark ages.
                Yawn.

                Tuscon . . .

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ABC
                  Originally posted by GarH
                  Every so often I think about moving back to Kansas, then I read a thread like this and I remember why I left the dark ages.
                  Yawn.

                  Tuscon . . .
                  I haven't heard many good things about Tuscon. I have heard good things about Phoenix.

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                  • #39
                    Phoenix is great if you dont mind having some drunk begging you for money at every stop light.
                    Kick 'em square in the grapes! (that can be very painful)

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by GarH
                      Every so often I think about moving back to Kansas, then I read a thread like this and I remember why I left the dark ages.
                      Hurry, I think you need to rake the rocks around in your "yard".

                      I'll remember your dig on Wichita as I drive the 12 miles home from work in 15 minutes, while you sit in traffic at an effective rate of 20 MPH. Hopefully someday your municipality can get a grasp on sprawl's relation to street infrastructure needs. Take heart, maybe in a few years Tucson can discover this newfangled thing called an "expressway", and perhaps a few years further they could jump on this bandwagon we call a "divided highway".

                      (For those who have never been to Tucson, just imagine living in a large, vegetation-less rock quarry roughly the size of OKC, with no way to get around town save for surface streets and traffic lights every 300 yards. It's fantastic! We should all move there.)

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                      • #41
                        I wonder if has enjoyed watching his house value drop about 35%?



                        Now THAT'S progressive.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Maggie
                          Well……I think McCain was better last night but not strong enough for me. This debate was probably the best of the three (although that is not saying much). A couple of quick points:

                          (1) McCain should have pointed out that Obama’s connection to Ayers, Wright, ACORN, etc. is not about guilt by mere association. These people and this organization support a particular political philosophy which Obama, by his own actions, seems to be at the very least sympathetic to -- that is the issue – not what Ayers, for example, did when Obama was 8 years old.

                          (2) The aforementioned should have been tied to the whole “Joe the Plumber” discussion – that is where it is relevant.

                          I have some other thoughts but I have to get ready for work.

                          Yes.

                          Dead on.

                          Exactly.

                          Looking forward to after work comments.

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                          • #43
                            McCain should have said "If I'm George Bush, then you are the do nothing Democrat controlled congress we have had for the last two years. Things weren't quite so bad in 2006, now were they?"
                            Talent is God given. Be humble. Fame is man-given. Be grateful. Conceit is self-given. Be careful. John Wooden

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                            • #44
                              A couple more thoughts:

                              I do think the whole “Joe the Plumber” theme is a pretty effective argument for McCain (he did an ok job of bringing it up during the debate); however, it may not be desposative.

                              The problem is Obama keeps pushing his exaggerated tax proposals in an attempt to come off as a moderate much like Clinton the first time around. Most of you would be well served to remember that Clinton, of course, decided against that promised middle class tax once in office. Notwithstanding, it is odd indeed when one of the most liberal Democrats in Washington is winning a tax cutting argument with a Republican – even if that Republican is John McCain.

                              And I would have brought up the prospect, if I were McCain, (possibly when they talked about cutting programs) of the Democratic Party controlling both houses of Congress and the Presidency.

                              Overall, I thought McCain won the debate on “points” but I thought Obama was the better debater. I guess I thought Obama was just trying to hold serve and ended up on the defensive quite a bit.

                              It is going to be an interesting few weeks.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by shocrates
                                Originally posted by wxkid23
                                Originally posted by tropicalshox
                                I don't know maybe my ears aren't right tonight but I had a hard time understanding McCain at times. Seems like he stumbled on words a bit, not Obama.

                                I get the feeling the majority of Americans don't want to listen to John for 4 years. TV has probably given Obama the job.
                                Obama acts and sounds like a robot. I think he has been training for this run for a long time.
                                Can you say Manchurian candidate?

                                Wasnt that the guy who spent time in a prisoner of war camp? :whistle: 8)
                                I have come here to chew bubblegum and kickass ... and I'm all out of bubblegum.

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