Drilling for oil and gas

[SpanglerFan316]

What is wrong with ideological arguments?

Absolutely nothing. Sometimes I'm in the mood for such arguments but not now. My work is very technical right now, one of my daughters (& family) is moving from California to Wichita in a week and the baseball team is not in the CWS :cry: ; SN is just light entertainment for me right now and "ideological arguments" don't qualify as light entertainment at the moment. (Such arguments can be a wasteful time sink.)

Good luck with the move.

Thanks. (Already arranged an apartment but those WSU basketball tickets are still a problem. :lol: )

[SubGod22]

The debate continues at the highest levels

[RoyalShock]

Not sure if I've posted these links before. There first is a video of a lecture by Lindsey Williams, a Baptist missionary who spent three years as a chaplain on the trans-Alaska pipeline in the 70s spending considerable time in a boardroom with top oil men. It's pretty long (1:15), but also very interesting. I think you'll find it worth your time.

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=3340274697167011147&hl=en

This is the text of one of his books, "The Energy Non-Crisis", of which the lecture is based on.

http://www.reformation.org/energy-non-crisis.html

Much of his story and assertions sound compelling, but I'll leave it up to you to decide the credibility.

[1979Shocker]

Not sure if I've posted these links before. There first is a video of a lecture by Lindsey Williams, a Baptist missionary who spent three years as a chaplain on the trans-Alaska pipeline in the 70s spending considerable time in a boardroom with top oil men. It's pretty long (1:15), but also very interesting. I think you'll find it worth your time.

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=3340274697167011147&hl=en

This is the text of one of his books, "The Energy Non-Crisis", of which the lecture is based on.

http://www.reformation.org/energy-non-crisis.html

Much of his story and assertions sound compelling, but I'll leave it up to you to decide the credibility.

I'm currently watching the video. That's a very interesting video. I'm about half way through it. I heard someone talking on the radio the other day about Gull Island in Alaska and the big oil field there and decided to do a Google search and found the video. I knew there was a thread here about drilling for oil and saw that you had already linked the video.

I just finished watching the last of the video. Here's what Lindsey Williams said at 1:09:15 which he calls, "the rest of the story".

President Bush cannot allow oil from the North Slope of Alaska to come to the United States of America. Because if he did, the oil producing countries of the world who signed on the dotted line in the days of Henry Kissinger would not be obligated to take a certain portion of everything that we give them in payment for oil and turn around and buy our national debt. And the pork in Washington D. C. and the $8 trillion debt would collapse the American economy and the American dollar.

[Ixiah]

I agree Sub. Even if it isn't immediate, the thought of even getting the oil in the next couple of years would surely scare OPEC a little bit.

When are cars gonna run on water? That's what I'm really waiting for.

When water can burn ... oh wait it can be done already:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/09/070913-burning-water_2.html

Really though - I think almost everything is going to be switched to electrictiy because its more flexible since it can be generated from coal, nuclear, wind, etc.

[SpanglerFan316]

The only problem for me is the long electric cord trailing behind the car. ;-) :D

[Shox151]

Something I've always kind of wondered about, and I think would be a side effect of using a different energy source for our cars. What happens to the millions of autos with ICEs we already have on the road that would be obsolete with engines using a different fuel source? Everyones car to the scrap heap, or the recycle bin if its an old Saturn?

[SubGod22]

It will never be one massive and quick change over. It'll take time and gas won't just disappear but other options will become available. People will slowly start to use the other stuff as they purchase newer vehicles. Some cars may be able to be modified as well depending on the technology. All of our vehicles won't just become obsolete over night.