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My Intro to CS class was discussing this issue today. One student brought up an interesting angle. Instead of the FBI asking Apple to write the new OS with the ability to get in like they want, could the FBI legally compel Apple to provide them the code for the current OS, and then the FBI have their own programmers attempt to write the hack necessary to get in? Obviously iOS is Apple's property, but could the entire existing OS be demanded in a "seizure" of sorts? While I fall very much on the side of Apple and working to maintain privacy for the consumer (as does this student), it was terrific to see this young 8th grader have this level of thought about all of this.
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Last edited by ShockBand; February 24, 2016, 12:08 AM.Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss -
I was watching Is it Legal tonight and they said that Apple would lose.
What they said is that all the FBI is asking Apple for is the password for this one phone that is owned by the county where this terrorist worked.
I don't know if they have to write an entire new OS to break into this one phone but it doesn't sound to me like this is the case. However, I admit that I don't know an OS from PMS
I'm not an anti government libertarian like many other Shockernetters geeks are but if Guilfoyle and Wiehl were correct, I'd be very happy.Comment
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They have to write a whole new OS for the Feds to get the password. Previously, Apple has provided password support as it only impacted a single phone. This situation is different, hence the different response.Originally posted by shockmonster View PostLivin the dreamComment
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John McAfee has offered to get the FBI the info on a one-time only basis, he says he can do it in two weeks. My thinking is they the FBI wants to bulldoze Apple. My thinking is that we'll see a similar end result to this as what I heard the US Marshall's office was doing - using geolocation information to track 6000 people using their phones.
Every Barney Fife in the country will be wanting access to this same back door. China will also want it as well. By the way, China has a law that only state-approved encryption be used on computers in their country. I'll give you three guesses as ro why. The company I work for requires encryption on portable devices EXCEPT in China. Our portable devices there are unencrypted. I'll let you guess why that was done as well.Comment
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If the county knew anything about the tech that they gave employees, this would be a non issue. As it stands, the negligence lies with the county as they did not set up the devices properly before distributing them to their employees.People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -Isaac Asimov
Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded
Who else posts fake **** all day in order to maintain the acrimony? Wingnuts, that's who.Comment
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People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -Isaac Asimov
Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded
Who else posts fake **** all day in order to maintain the acrimony? Wingnuts, that's who.Comment
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You're close. The Chinese want a backdoor on everything and anything b/c it allows them to snoop. We don't encrypt our devices because there is no protection using encryption in China (since they have all the backdoors). The Chinese, like the people running our country, want encryption algorithms that they can break. They want breakable encryption algorithms so they can steal our intellectual property.Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
Kinda makes you scratch your head when you see Boeing, for one, moving sub compartment assembly factories to China, doesn't it.
Apple has a faustian bargain on their hands. If they create a backdoor, the Chinese will immediately demand it.Comment
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My logic was actually that if your company wasn't profiting in China, they wouldn't be there at all and thus would not have devices without encryption.Originally posted by shocka khan View PostComment
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And you are absolutely correct. In fact, I like your point better than mine after reflecting about it. My original take on this was that having breakable encryption is a cost of doing business in China (a requirement).Originally posted by RoyalShock View PostComment
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Trump said that he is going to change this. It's part of knowing how to make a deal.Originally posted by shocka khan View PostComment
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We all know it's the Clintons who are tough on China.Originally posted by shockmonster View PostKung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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Without commenting on the actual scandal, I think it's hilarious they call it the most serious scandal in US history but still use the "gate" suffix. It's ironic to proclaim it as the most serious of all time while still needing to refer to it as a "gate" of some kind so the reader knows it was bad.Originally posted by Kung Wu View PostComment
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I agree calling it the worst scandal in history is stupid. But it was still dirty, dirty, dirty.Originally posted by jdshock View PostKung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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Is this the place where we are saying that MY DAD is better than yours? Because if so, I am anti-Clinton too. I don't claim, nor do I trust either.Originally posted by Kung Wu View PostComment
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