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    The CDC has taken a very low profile on this it seems and are not really talking about who this person was or how he got it - Even where the CDC director put out a statement

    "he has no doubt the infection will be contained. At this point, he said, there is zero risk of transmission to anyone on the flight with the patient because he was not showing any symptoms at the time of travel.
    Lets hope he is right, and he not hack like the lady in charge of the secret service.

    For the first time, a patient in an American hospital has been diagnosed with Ebola. Should we be concerned? The short answer: no.

  • #2
    I'm not worried. I know where a hospital that can treat ebola is located, my wife worked on the team that treated the last ebola patient and my insurance works at that hospital. I say bring it on!
    There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
      I'm not worried. I know where a hospital that can treat ebola is located, my wife worked on the team that treated the last ebola patient and my insurance works at that hospital. I say bring it on!
      I eat ebola for breakfast!!!

      Or is it granola?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
        I'm not worried. I know where a hospital that can treat ebola is located, my wife worked on the team that treated the last ebola patient and my insurance works at that hospital. I say bring it on!
        Difference may be that case was fully isolated and controlled. At this point I don't think they really know how big of exposure this may be.

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        • #5
          I'm not sure I believe the sunshine-pumpers @ the CDC.

          We're now finding out that the guy had contact with 12-18 people, including children, that the hospital botched a routine screening (when he said he had just come from Liberia) and sent him home.

          Just remember, the Great Chicago Fire started someone or something (Mrs. O'Leary's cow?) kicked a lantern over in the barn and started the hay on fire. Who would have thought that the city of Chicago almost burned down from the simple act of a cow kicking over a lantern (and I bet there would have been NO fire if it had been a Coleman lantern).

          These 'experts' are assuming that we won't have a catastrophic failure. Problem is, catastrophic failures can and do happen. Failure to follow protocol and communicate effectively have already provided an opportunity for this poor man to have contact with many other people.
          Last edited by shocka khan; October 1, 2014, 04:28 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by shocka khan View Post
            I'm not sure I believe the sunshine-pumpers @ the CDC.

            We're now finding out that the guy had contact with 12-18 people, including children, that the hospital botched a routine screening (when he said he had just come from Liberia) and sent him home.

            Just remember, the Great Chicago Fire started when Mrs. O'Leary's cow kicked a lantern over in the barn and started the hay on fire. Who would have thought that the city of Chicago almost burned down from the simple act of a cow kicking over a lantern (and I bet there would have been NO fire if it had been a Coleman lantern).

            These 'experts' are assuming that we won't have a catastrophic failure. Problem is, catastrophic failures can and do happen. Failure to follow protocol and communicate effectively have already provided an opportunity for this poor man to have contact with many other people.
            Nigeria has been able to control te spread of ebola. There is no reason to believe that the US cannot.

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            • #7
              Ebola in the US will be no worse than west Nile in the US.
              There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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              • #8
                Dallas parents fearing Ebola remove children from school




                21 day FALL BREAK for Everybody!!!!

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                • #9
                  Ebola is much more serious than west Nile. 20% of west Nile patients develop hemorrhagic fever. If you are one of the 20% your chances of pulling thru are fifty/fifty.

                  Nearly all Ebola patients develop hemorragic fever and other associated symptoms.

                  Think west Nile with a hemorrhagic fever. Liver and/or kidneys go and you bleed to death internally. I would imagine you would bleed at least a little out of all body orifices. That's why bleeding from the mouth is a symptom. Most of the rest of your body orifices are covered.

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                  • #10
                    If 20% of West Nile patients develop hemorrhagic fever, and 50% of those die, my cowboy math would put the West Nile mortality rate at 10%. That would be concerning. Unfortunately, you are way off. You are "liberal spewing bullshit numbers" off. First off, the vast majority of West Nile infections go unreported. Most people don't even know they have contracted West Nile. West Nile can be devastating to the elderly and those with depressed immune systems. Now, even though it's Wikipedia, here are realistic figures that demonstrate the bullshit you've spewed. Read it, learn it, know it.

                    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_..._United_States
                    There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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                    • #11
                      From the wiki article: *The reported number of infected in 2009 was 720, but the estimated total number of infected the same year was 54,000.[2]*The true mortality rate is thought to be much lower because most cases are so mild they go undiagnosed. Some estimates put severe cases at only 1% of all cases.

                      Seems far from the 20% of all cases develop hemorrhagic fever and 50% of those die numbers presented by shaka kahn.
                      There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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                      • #12
                        I think the point Shaka was trying to make was that Ebola is more dangerous than West Nile. From a death rate perspective both of you have presented numbers that support that argument. On the other hand, Ebola is only transmitted by symptomatic individuals and the vector is bodily fluids. That being the case, the transmission of such a disease in a first world country is going to be very low. Generally speaking, don't drink water which has been urinated or defecated in by an individual bleeding from the mouth and eyes and your risk is fairly low.
                        Livin the dream

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by wufan View Post
                          I think the point Shaka was trying to make was that Ebola is more dangerous than West Nile. From a death rate perspective both of you have presented numbers that support that argument. On the other hand, Ebola is only transmitted by symptomatic individuals and the vector is bodily fluids. That being the case, the transmission of such a disease in a first world country is going to be very low. Generally speaking, don't drink water which has been urinated or defecated in by an individual bleeding from the mouth and eyes and your risk is fairly low.
                          People that may contract ebola in the United States will get very sick. They will, for the most part, recover. Like West Nile, should ebola take hold in the US, fatalities will largely be the elderly and infirmed.

                          If you catch ebola in Wichita, you may wish you were dead, but you will likely fully recover.
                          There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
                            People that may contract ebola in the United States will get very sick. They will, for the most part, recover. Like West Nile, should ebola take hold in the US, fatalities will largely be the elderly and infirmed.

                            If you catch ebola in Wichita, you may wish you were dead, but you will likely fully recover.
                            If you catch Ebola in springfield? Will that just be another day in meth land?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
                              I'm not worried. I know where a hospital that can treat ebola is located, my wife worked on the team that treated the last ebola patient and my insurance works at that hospital. I say bring it on!
                              Nice for those of us in Omaha. And it's not a Creighton hospital so all is well.

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