The Death Penalty

[pinstripers]

http://www.kansas.com/2013/11/16/3122863/wichita-man-29-charged-in-second.html

we need it back

[pogo]

Seldom used, rarely applied. Now castration of the whole package would be a thought.

[WuDrWu]

My personal stance on the death penalty has changed many times over the years. I'm still not positive where I am on right and wrong, but I am sure when it's applied as it is today (and it's unlikely to ever be applied widely enough to be the deterrent it should be) it's fiscally irresponsible. I would advocate to abolish the death penalty and instead erect supermax prisons on the frozen tundra in Alaska....DEEP Alaska. Lifers only. Humane but simple. I'm fine with TV but no communication. None. If someone wants to visit, fine, but no contact. 3 squares and TV. No computer, and no internet. Anyone wanting to take their own life is welcome to be shown the way, at their own hands.

That's my idea at least.

[pogo]

I always thought one of the Aleutian Islands. Wouldn't need any fences to keep them in. Barracks separate from the main compound. Main compound to have mess hall, hospital and guards quarters. Prisoners allowed in main compound to eat and receive medical attention. Off shore security handled by predator drones, no fly zones and five mile no intrusion areas.

[shock]

I always thought one of the Aleutian Islands. Wouldn't need any fences to keep them in. Barracks separate from the main compound. Main compound to have mess hall, hospital and guards quarters. Prisoners allowed in main compound to eat and receive medical attention. Off shore security handled by predator drones, no fly zones and five mile no intrusion areas.

Fences to keep people out, not in

[shock]

My personal stance on the death penalty has changed many times over the years. I'm still not positive where I am on right and wrong, but I am sure when it's applied as it is today (and it's unlikely to ever be applied widely enough to be the deterrent it should be) it's fiscally irresponsible. I would advocate to abolish the death penalty and instead erect supermax prisons on the frozen tundra in Alaska....DEEP Alaska. Lifers only. Humane but simple. I'm fine with TV but no communication. None. If someone wants to visit, fine, but no contact. 3 squares and TV. No computer, and no internet. Anyone wanting to take their own life is welcome to be shown the way, at their own hands.

That's my idea at least.

it would be incredibly expensive. Like Obama care expensive.

[pinstripers]

Better to kill 'em

[MoValley John]

I'm against the death penalty. I used to be for the death penalty, then I changed my view. I belive the death penalty to be constitutional andf legal, Ii just have a problem having my tax money spent to kill US citizens. Even the lowest, most disgusting, depraved, I don't want my money spent killing US citizens, I then feel like I had a part in a homicide for pay. I feel dirty.

I do believe in life without the possibility of parole and hard labor. Sick bastards can't do enough hard labor. Productive hard labor. Not license plate manufacturing, but breaking rocks. All bland meals and busting rocks for the rest of their lives. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

[KC Shox]

I'm against the death penalty. I used to be for the death penalty, then I changed my view. I belive the death penalty to be constitutional andf legal, Ii just have a problem having my tax money spent to kill US citizens. Even the lowest, most disgusting, depraved, I don't want my money spent killing US citizens, I then feel like I had a part in a homicide for pay. I feel dirty.

I do believe in life without the possibility of parole and hard labor. Sick bastards can't do enough hard labor. Productive hard labor. Not license plate manufacturing, but breaking rocks. All bland meals and busting rocks for the rest of their lives. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

The question is, and I don't know, does the actual cost of imprisoning a murderer for life more expensive than capitol punishment? For costs, under the prison's books, I would venture a guess that keeping him alive would be more expensive. However, for individuals where the death penalty is being sought, costs involved are not strictly isolated to the prison. Trial costs are where the costs run extremely high. Pre-trial, trial, appeals, etc. are where the costs start to rise and the tax payers are really hit hard.

Thou shall not kill but an eye-for-an-eye arguments are another issue altogether. For me, I want the victim's family to have justice as well as society. If the victim's family want the death penalty, do I have the right to interject my view because my taxes are affected? This murderer is of no benefit to society and will never make a positive contribution to it ever again, so why keep him around?

[shock]

The question is, and I don't know, does the actual cost of imprisoning a murderer for life more expensive than capitol punishment? For costs, under the prison's books, I would venture a guess that keeping him alive would be more expensive. However, for individuals where the death penalty is being sought, costs involved are not strictly isolated to the prison. Trial costs are where the costs run extremely high. Pre-trial, trial, appeals, etc. are where the costs start to rise and the tax payers are really hit hard.

Thou shall not kill but an eye-for-an-eye arguments are another issue altogether. For me, I want the victim's family to have justice as well as society. If the victim's family want the death penalty, do I have the right to interject my view because my taxes are affected? This murderer is of no benefit to society and will never make a positive contribution to it ever again, so why keep him around?

A bullet costs a nickel.

[pinstripers]

While I agree that economics are a consideration, some folks simply should not be allowed to live. In the case of pedophiles, we could simply drive over them, going back and forth until they were done. Drowning would also be an inexpensive way to go, or being pushed off a tall building.

[SB Shock]

A bullet costs a nickel.

actually for 9mm FMJ is going to be about ~32 cents and 9mm hollow point it would be ~80 cents.

[shock]

actually for 9mm FMJ is going to be about ~32 cents and 9mm hollow point it would be ~80 cents.

22

[Kung Wu]

actually for 9mm FMJ is going to be about ~32 cents and 9mm hollow point it would be ~80 cents.

Beat me to it. I was going to say 9mm is about 50 cents give or take. However maybe he was thinking a long slow death from a .22 short?

A Godly society with similar morals and an apolitical justice system with the death penalty, is very different than an agnostic society with an increasingly politicized and socialist judicial system with the death penalty. As the former becomes the latter, any thinking man should become more and more skeptical of capital punishment.

Reminds me of this limerick:

There was an old bastard named Lenin
Who did two or three million men in.
That's a lot to have done in
But where he did one in
That old bastard Stalin did ten in.

[WstateU]

"Franklin, 63, was executed at the state prison in Bonne Terre for killing Gerald Gordon in a sniper shooting at a suburban St. Louis synagogue in 1977. Franklin was convicted of seven other murders across the country and claimed responsibility for up to 20 overall, but the Missouri case was the only one that brought a death sentence. Mike O'Connell, of the Missouri Department of Corrections, said Franklin was pronounced dead at 6:17 a.m."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/20/missouri-executes-serial-killer-franklin/?cmpid=cmty_twitter_fn

I don't feel sorry for this lowlife; let him burn in hell with Richard Hickock and Perry Smith.