Romeo Crennel & Scott Pioli (TERMINATION WATCH 2012)

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

If we dont make a trade, I hope we pick Joeckel. Pick Glennon in the second. Especially if we can re-sign Albert (lots of OT free agents, a few better than him) then we are set with a very young, very talented OL.

Another option would be trying to sign FA linemen. Jake Long, ryan Clady, or Andy Levitre are all young OL that are FA. Combine that with possibly picking up Brent Grimes, and now we can use #1 on the best player, or trade down easier to get more picks to get quaility players to fill wholes. We could take Jarvis Jones #1, solving our open spot at ILB, or maybe we get Mauluga in FA?

DE is a position I think gets filled thru FA as I dont think we re-sign Dorsey unless we get him cheap. Imagine if we hire Polian and he can convince Freeney to come here with a longer contract than others will offer, but cheaper because of it. Look how effective Peppers has been in Chi. Can guve some leadership to the DL.

We have LOTS of cap room, and while I would like to see us re-sign Bowe, Greg Jennings is out there and so is Mike Wallace. Pairing two of those together, combined with moeaki, Boss, and McCluster as well as Baldwin in the slot makes us dangerous there as well. We could afford to sign multiple big FA deals and structure them so they are heavy this first year leaving us even more opportunities for next year to get better also.

We are primed for a HUGE step forward, but do we have the right leadership in charge? I hope Clark sees this and brings in Polian and an awesome coaching staff that can provide some stability for the team, especially an offens le on thier 6 th system in 5 years.

[newshock1234]

Most of, if not all of those guys will get tagged and will not hit the FA market

[newshock1234]

I wouldnt mind Danny Amendola who will be a FA to put at the slot

[SB Shock]

Crennel will be 28-53 after today game - hasn't he pretty much proven he's not head coaching material and change will be needed (along with Pioli)?

[1979Shocker]

It doesn't matter who the coach is. If you don't have the players, it won't make a difference. Right now the offensive and defensive lines are not that great. I don't think Peyton Manning would do that well for KC. Maybe the line would try harder if he was the quarterback, though.

[SB Shock]

It doesn't matter who the coach is. If you don't have the players, it won't make a difference. Right now the offensive and defensive lines are not that great. I don't think Peyton Manning would do that well for KC. Maybe the line would try harder if he was the quarterback, though.

Well it does matter, because coming into this season this team was considered "young and talented" - so somewhere along the way this "young and talented" team quit - that is on the coach. The QB situation and holes in the lineup are on Pioli (as well as his stupid coaching hires).

[newshock1234]

It doesn't matter who the coach is. If you don't have the players, it won't make a difference. Right now the offensive and defensive lines are not that great. I don't think Peyton Manning would do that well for KC. Maybe the line would try harder if he was the quarterback, though.

disagree there, the line is fine, is actually rated by PFF as a top 5 overal o line in the NFL. A good qb and HC makes a world of difference, the biggest example is look at Indy.

[newshock1234]

Marty from Chiefsplanet (who has sources and has been right in the past) posted this and says Pioli is not in control right now

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=267736&page=2

Here's how the real NFL works when it comes to GMs, Coaches, Assistants, Coordinators and the personnel men, scouts: November and December are hustle months meaning they are getting their name on the street and talking with guys affiliated with teams. It's been so widespread for so long, its par for the course. For example, a scout looking to move up will reach out to teams in mid November in hopes of getting a gig right at the end of a season. These are guys looking to move up or find security because they know a change in "leadership" is forthcoming.

So how does Pioli get lumped into this?

Let's triple flashback to the day LaCanfora reported that Pioli had a new extension. Turns out it was never signed but damage was done.

Let's double flashback to Pioli's interview tour. It was done without Clark's blessing. It was done to make Scott seem to be personable, dedicated and focused. All traits that a new employer wants to see during the time of "crisis". Face it, this season has been a massive crisis. Scott wants to demonstrate he can handle himself. So he did what he thought was a good thing.

Clark was pissed. He was in Chicago having a conversation with a well-to-do ex Chiefs coach who has enjoyed a storied head coaching career in a town that rhymes with Hittsburg and is now on TV.

Clark returns to KC, strips Pioli of all GM power. Silences him. Crennel is given control over the roster. Out goes Rhoutt.

Let's flashback to November 10. Reports surfaced that Schottenheimer was at 1 Arrowhead to meet Clark Hunt, who flew in his private jet and landed downtown that morning. Clark was in KC. Pioli wasn't. A Chiefs employee called a national sports radio show to report this. The Chiefs went into full damage control.

Where was Scott? In Providence. The picture we tweeted out was taken on November 11 at a hotel in Providence. During this time, he met with representatives from the Titans to discuss a potential role with the team with player personnel. Pioli has circulated his name to a few teams, including the Patriots. The picture was taken around the lunch hour. The Boston College/Notre Dame was an 8pm kickoff that night. Doesn't matter if Scott is employed with us or not, he's going to scout players so he knows whats going on in case another team falls for his **** again.

Pioli flys to Pittsburgh for the MNF game.

Clark Hunt flys to Pittsburgh for the game. Stays behind and has breakfast with one of the ESPN announcers who did the game the night before. Chuck is his name, I think.

Then comes the really odd thing: After the Bengals game, Clark and Scott had a long meeting at Arrowhead. I got a text that night saying both were still in the stadium past 7pm. I didn't think anything of it. Then I get a message from a well placed source that Scott took the entire week of Thanksgiving off, arriving back into town the night before the Broncos game. Sorry, but NFL GMs don't take that kind of time off during the season.

This week Scott was in Dallas to meet with Clark. This is the kiss of death. No different than when Carl was let go. Flying commercial to Dallas mid-week in December when there is no league business meetings scheduled, no college games to scout or anything else is a tell-tale sign.

Notice that TV cameras have not shown Scott in the last 2 weeks? Or mentioned his name? Remember when CBS started talking about the blackout in the 4th quarter after word broke via Twitter that stadium security was confiscating our FIRE PIOLI signs and kicking people out of Arrowhead? Nothing in the NFL is done in the NFL by a whim. Nothing.

So I mentioned Crennel and a buyout. The guy is just flat out exhausted. I'm hearing some health issues are popping up but Clark is sympathetic to what is going on with Romeo and what he's been through. Basically, for pension purposes (even at vested status), Romeo still needs credit for a full 16-game schedule. This is the deal worked out. It's respectable. And the Chiefs want that #1 pick.

BTW, I am hearing the only reason that Clark refuses to make an in-season change now is that he doesn't want the players to get excited or pumped up for the new guy. Ray Farmer was slated to be the interim GM if Clark ever pulled the trigger. Clark really wants to give that new GM and Coach a #1 pick and let them decide to take a QB, trade down or do whatever.

It is important to end this post with one simple statement: In the NFL the real moves occur ahead of the announced moves. Call it a game of shadows if you will. Some of the well placed media guys have an understanding not to report on certain things. Me, I could give a **** less. I'm a Chiefs fan, not a card-carrying member of the media.

[SB Shock]

several league sources expect Bill Polian to be a lead candidate in Kansas City if a regime change is made there, with he and his son Chris, the former Colts GM, able to run the franchise in a very hands-on manner, which is in line with how owner Clark Hunt traditionally delegates responsibility.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/21413784/monday-observations-looking-for-next-big-thing-when-it-comes-to-gms

[Shoxfan11]

Why trade for another QB? Why not finally draft a QB in the first round and finally have a QB the Chiefs can call their own?

Geno Smith
11,461 yds
67.4% completion
96 TD / 21 INT

Robert Griffin III
10,071 yds
66.1% completion
78 TD / 17 INT

I see no reason to not take a chance on Geno.

[newshock1234]

Why trade for another QB? Why not finally draft a QB in the first round and finally have a QB the Chiefs can call their own?

Geno Smith
11,461 yds
67.4% completion
96 TD / 21 INT

Robert Griffin III
10,071 yds
66.1% completion
78 TD / 17 INT

I see no reason to not take a chance on Geno.

but he played bad that 1 game and I dont like taking chances/true chiefs fan

[newshock1234]

PLEASE BE TRUE!!!!!

nick wright @getnickwright

From a more than reliable source: Scott Pioli and Romeo Crennel have officially been told they will NOT be back next year. #Chiefs

[SB Shock]

PLEASE BE TRUE!!!!!

nick wright @getnickwright

From a more than reliable source: Scott Pioli and Romeo Crennel have officially been told they will NOT be back next year. #Chiefs

unfortunately there there are more denying than confirming

But at the moment, Chiefs owner Clark Hunt has not yet told Crennel and Pioli to clean out their offices.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/19/chiefs-have-not-delivered-pink-slips-to-crennel-and-pioli-yet/

But It seems pretty clear it is expected and it is just about timing now.

[SubGod22]

Rumors floating around that the Chiefs are pursuing Chip Kelly as their next head coach.

[newshock1234]

Rumors floating around that the Chiefs are pursuing Chip Kelly as their next head coach.

I know alot of people would freak out, but I like it. I think he would bring alot of much needed energy.