RIP Bob Dole

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

I’m shocked there isn’t a thread about this somewhere.

Dole was a monument of politics when I was a kid and still is to this day. I cast my first presidential vote for him. The man did so much good for the state of Kansas and the entire country. He was and always will be one of my political heroes. Thanks Bob for everything you did.

[SubGod22]

Didn't always agree with him, but never really doubted or questioned who he was.

[SB Shock]

Bob Dole

“As a second lieutenant and leader of the 2nd platoon of ‘I’ Company, my goal was to reach Hill 913,” Dole said, recalling the battle where he was wounded. “Today, as a senator, my goal is to make sure that the peace we fought so valiantly for is maintained — that peace is preserved. It required much of us, in manpower, in money, and above all, in spiritual and national resolve. Those of us that took part in the fighting bless the subsequent peace. We hail the friendships that grew out of the hostility and we pledged ourselves anew to the cause for which so many gave so much.”

If only we had politicians on both side of the isle who had the same mentality.

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Bob Dole



If only we had politicians on both side of the isle who had the same mentality.

I think there are many politicians on both sides of the aisle that truly believe that they embrace these thoughts. The problem lies in that they believe they are the true sons of liberty and refuse to engage with others that aren't lock stepped into their beliefs. Bob Dole will always be a son of Kansas, a wounded combat veteran and one that did much to lend aid to to veterans dead and alive and their families, He helped sponsor a bill that led to helping children of Armed Forces killed in Viet Nam financial aid for college. My wife was able to go to college on one of these grants since her own father was killed in Laos bombing the Ho Chi Minh trail in early 1965. His name is on the first section of the memorial. Rest in Peach Bob Dole. You gave all.

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Bob Dole



If only we had politicians on both side of the isle who had the same mentality.

Mr. Dole was part of a generation of politicians--and Americans, for that matter--who never thought of compromise as the practice of sacrificing your principles. Today, both sides are so focused on demonizing each other (you're either a "socialist" or a "racist" when CLEARLY neither of those things are true) that we are functionally unable to compromise or even cooperate.

I don't know for sure how we got here, but I have to think losing people like Mr. Dole has a lot to do with it. I appreciate everything he did for my home state, and he did a lot. But what I will miss the most--in this era of MTG and AOC and Trump and Sanders--is his decency and his moderateness.

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Bob Dole was a good man. Old school. Loved him.

I believe this country is in the state it's in with respect to divisiveness due to the media, first and foremost. It began with Rush, then mainstream media began to liberalize, then cable networks (MSNBC/FOX) saw an opportunity and became even more extreme yet. Social media is a total **** show with each comment trying to out-shock the next (all likely from their mom's basement). Trump was the first modern-day troll president (which I liked at first then didn't). Essentially, the world is full of CB's.... although not quite as smart. ;)

The future doesn't look very bright, but Mother Nature has stepped in and changed the paradigm. It looks like she's going after one political party.....

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

Bob Dole was a good man. Old school. Loved him.

I believe this country is in the state it's in with respect to divisiveness due to the media, first and foremost. It began with Rush, then mainstream media began to liberalize, then cable networks (MSNBC/FOX) saw an opportunity and became even more extreme yet. Social media is a total **** show with each comment trying to out-shock the next (all likely from their mom's basement). Trump was the first modern-day troll president (which I liked at first then didn't). Essentially, the world is full of CB's.... although not quite as smart. ;)

The future doesn't look very bright, but Mother Nature has stepped in and changed the paradigm. It looks like she's going after one political party.....

I'm gonna go ahead and agree, but I have one point to make about the media. Media (meaning news outlets) are a business, and they're much more willing and able to determine exactly what content resonates with their consumers (through website clicks, TV ratings, etc) than they used to be. The people running those companies aren't idiots. So yes, they've liberalized/conservatized, but they've done so because that's what people have responded to. They deserve blame, but the American public deserves just as much (if not more) blame for falling for the idiocy that is FOX, MSNBC, Brietbart, Mother Jones, etc.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Bob Dole was a good man. Old school. Loved him.

I believe this country is in the state it's in with respect to divisiveness due to the media, first and foremost. It began with Rush, then mainstream media began to liberalize, then cable networks (MSNBC/FOX) saw an opportunity and became even more extreme yet. Social media is a total **** show with each comment trying to out-shock the next (all likely from their mom's basement). Trump was the first modern-day troll president (which I liked at first then didn't). Essentially, the world is full of CB's.... although not quite as smart. ;)

The future doesn't look very bright, but Mother Nature has stepped in and changed the paradigm. It looks like she's going after one political party.....

Rush got popular as a conservative alternative to Howard Stern.

Like mainstream media, you continue to ignore facts to fit your narrative.

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Rush got popular as a conservative alternative to Howard Stern.

Like mainstream media, you continue to ignore facts to fit your narrative.

Rush got popular when Slick Willy got elected. He literally built a Conservative media empire on the back of Bill's penis.

Howard Stern? C'mon...

Prior to the Rush Limbaugh era, it was the norm for Republicans and Democrats to eat and chat together in the Congress cafeteria. Now it's the exception.

Obviously it isn't all on Rush. There are a hundred Rush clones now who spew continual divisive rhetoric all across the US of A. It's relentless end of the world hyperbole. And I used to eat it up just like the rest of you. It's mostly all bullshit.

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Rush got popular as a conservative alternative to Howard Stern.

Like mainstream media, you continue to ignore facts to fit your narrative.

I have never thought of Howard Stern as a liberal political commentator, but I guess that doesn't mean he isn't. I don't listen to Stern (his movie is hilarious though) but I used to listen to Limbaugh years ago. I think if you were to ask either of them (granted, Limbaugh is no longer with us), they wouldn't consider each other competitors. This seems like a pretty dramatic reach in order to find facts to fit your narrative.

I actually agree with Cold on this. Limbaugh's popularity rose with Clinton's shenanigans. Really, a lot of the divisiveness that we experience today had its beginnings in the Clinton era. Also, strangely enough, the Clinton era saw the beginnings of the internet, where misinformation can spread unchecked like a virus and anonymous keyboard warriors can spew hate, disrespect, and incivility without repercussions. Surely a coincidence.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

I have never thought of Howard Stern as a liberal political commentator, but I guess that doesn't mean he isn't. I don't listen to Stern (his movie is hilarious though) but I used to listen to Limbaugh years ago. I think if you were to ask either of them (granted, Limbaugh is no longer with us), they wouldn't consider each other competitors. This seems like a pretty dramatic reach in order to find facts to fit your narrative.

I actually agree with Cold on this. Limbaugh's popularity rose with Clinton's shenanigans. Really, a lot of the divisiveness that we experience today had its beginnings in the Clinton era. Also, strangely enough, the Clinton era saw the beginnings of the internet, where misinformation can spread unchecked like a virus and anonymous keyboard warriors can spew hate, disrespect, and incivility without repercussions. Surely a coincidence.

Stern was a wild Libertarian. He did what he wanted. He was wild and over the top, and quickly spread across the airwaves. Then Rush came along as an alternative.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

I have never thought of Howard Stern as a liberal political commentator, but I guess that doesn't mean he isn't. I don't listen to Stern (his movie is hilarious though) but I used to listen to Limbaugh years ago. I think if you were to ask either of them (granted, Limbaugh is no longer with us), they wouldn't consider each other competitors. This seems like a pretty dramatic reach in order to find facts to fit your narrative.

I actually agree with Cold on this. Limbaugh's popularity rose with Clinton's shenanigans. Really, a lot of the divisiveness that we experience today had its beginnings in the Clinton era. Also, strangely enough, the Clinton era saw the beginnings of the internet, where misinformation can spread unchecked like a virus and anonymous keyboard warriors can spew hate, disrespect, and incivility without repercussions. Surely a coincidence.

So the political divisiveness started with Clinton then. That is my take away. Bill, Hillary, Obumma, and SLeepy Joe have more or as much to do with the divide than Rush.

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So the political divisiveness started with Clinton then. That is my take away. Bill, Hillary, Obumma, and SLeepy Joe have more or as much to do with the divide than Rush.

You know, I think it started when they began to liberalize media. AM radio kicked off with Rush and conservative talk after a law was repealed requiring equal access for liberal and conservative ideas. Then cable television expanded with CNN, then Fox News and MSNBC, then YouTube.

Walter Cronkite is no longer the voice of the government preaching to all Americans. Lies and hypocrisy are now easily exposed.

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I honestly think the Conservatives fired the first salvo in the modern era political war. And it was done over immorality. Remember Ken Starr? We'd love to put that ammo back in the can if we could. But we terrorized a president that most of America looks back on as a decent, slightly left of center dude. And if you don't think Bill was decent, what on EARTH would you call Trump? I don't know the pathway back, but we've got to find a way to get politics back in the far corner of our lives. We have TOO many political talking heads. You can't get away from it. Even the late night talk show hosts traffic in the bile. It's ridiculous. I miss David Letterman (pre-woke) and Johnny Carson. :(

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

Dude, Clod, you have a major case of TDS. You need help. Lol.