Trump's anemic rally in Tulsa.

[wufan]

Your sample is not scientific and is worthless. By the way: wearing a mask is twice as likely to cause Covid infection in my natural experiment as not wearing one. Meaningless.

Im on your side as soon as you come up with a plan to stop the insurrection.

[B1ShockFan]

You want a role model for children? Don’t shirk your duties as a father. Anyone that wants to be president doesn’t deserve the honor. I’m sure you are/will be a good parent. Keep it up! Don’t pass the buck.

I feel I am a great role model for my children, but most children look at other successful adults also as role models and president of the United States should be of a character that they would want to follow. I feel our president sends the wrong personal messages that are not acceptable for any human being to follow. Just not a good leader.

[revenge_of_shocka_khan]

I feel I am a great role model for my children, but most children look at other successful adults also as role models and president of the United States should be of a character that they would want to follow. I feel our president sends the wrong personal messages that are not acceptable for any human being to follow. Just not a good leader.

+1.

Seems like a lot of people sold their souls to get conservative judges. They seem to excuse his behaviors by saying "Well, he got a lot of conserviative judges through."

They got their conservative judges at the expense of having a president who is not a role model, cannot lead and does not set a good example of Christian behavior.

[wichshock65]

I feel I am a great role model for my children, but most children look at other successful adults also as role models and president of the United States should be of a character that they would want to follow. I feel our president sends the wrong personal messages that are not acceptable for any human being to follow. Just not a good leader.

I get it, I really do. Too many times to count have I heard Trump spout off something that shouldn't have been. He is an egotistical billionaire from New York City. He's not like you and I, not even close. I find it hard to relate to him, very hard. That said, he is one of two choices to bevtge next President. I voted for him the first time around and will do so the second. Why? Because he is the ONLY one who I trust to lead us out of the worst economic crisis since the great depression. Like him or not, he has created jobs, energy independence and extremely good economy. That is, before the whole virus thing.

Do you really trust Joe to get us out of this ****? Really? I'm not the brightest bulb on this forum but I do love my kids and our country. I could never withhold my conservative vote and risk turning our next Presidency over to the Libs while our nation is burning down. I'm afraid there would be nothing.

I'll hold my nose and and vote for the best of the two.

[wsushox1]

This isn't going to change many peoples mind, but I believe Biden is the most ideologically conservative democrat to win the nomination since Bill Clinton.

Holding your nose while he tries to undermine the rule of law in this country is something else. Trump truly doesn't care about the people he claims to care about. Trump is not a practicing Christian, and certainly doesn't live with any sort of christian values. He only cares about power and public adoration. The right wing media has convinced people that democrats want to destroy the country and are coming for you and your family.

[wufan]

I feel I am a great role model for my children, but most children look at other successful adults also as role models and president of the United States should be of a character that they would want to follow. I feel our president sends the wrong personal messages that are not acceptable for any human being to follow. Just not a good leader.

All true. Unfortunately, we do not have time for such luxuries while the left is trying to overturn the structure. Good wishes to you in this difficult decision.

[wsushox1]

All true. Unfortunately, we do not have time for such luxuries while the left is trying to overturn the structure. Good wishes to you in this difficult decision.

Which structure is that?

[wufan]

Which structure is that?

The western world, enlightenment, and individual rights. The neomarxists are trying to overthrow this country. The leftists politicians are supporting admitted marxists like BLM and are apologizing for rioters and looters. They think they can control them, but I think they are wrong.

[wsushox1]

The western world, enlightenment, and individual rights. The neomarxists are trying to overthrow this country. The leftists politicians are supporting admitted marxists like BLM and are apologizing for rioters and looters. They think they can control them, but I think they are wrong.

I would argue that the party holding enlightenment back, is the same party who rallied around a tradition-centric campaign slogan "Make America Great Again". I would argue the party fighting most for individual liberties and rights is the Democratic party. You didn't hear much pushback from the DACA & Title VII SCOTUS cases from Republicans because they secretly know that both of those issues are issues they were on the wrong side of.

The western world was built on a history of colonization and slave labor exploitation. While I don't agree with the tactics that the marxists are taking, the glorification of the western world is at the heart of the actions you are seeing happen in some of the more liberal places around the country. Throughout history, statues are built, and statues are torn down. Been going on for 1000s of years. In 200 years the people who think they are on the moral high ground on either side will probably be vilified for something.

The reality is that the worldview that pragmatic people (i'm not talking about marxists or white ehtnostate nationalists) on the left or right have are drastically different. We want largely the same things. It's our mental construction of how the world is ordered that causes us to disagree on the best way to accomplish or reach those goals.

[C0|dB|00ded]

Trump has captured the Republican Party the way Stalin consolidated power in the late twenties and early thirties. Other than Romney, there is no national Republican with the integrity and courage to stand up to him. He defecates daily on the honor of the country and "his" party.

Trump captured ****. He's got 4 years left if he gets lucky and then we get a Democrat for 8 years. At least I hope it's a Democrat... There may not be a Democrat party left in 4 years. As far as Trump and defecation goes... he was the only person that could have flushed Hillary down the tubes. He was Hillary's Kryptonite. The DNC tried to pull the usual **** and Trump just shrugged it off. It was quite incredible to watch. When the Access Hollywood tape came out I would have bet every nickel I had that he was done. He even looked done when he walked out onto the debate stage that night. But after about 15 mins he was back on fire. Like Newt Gingrich said, "Trump is a blue-collar barroom brawler". If you can say anything about Trump, it's that he's resilient. Sometimes the biggest determining factor on whether or not you will succeed at something - or life - is your health/vigor/aggressiveness/resiliency. Trump has all that in spades. He can simply outlast his opponents. He will not stop fighting.

And to Trump's credit, he is the most "honest" politician, with respect to fulfilling his campaign promises, in the history of modern politics. He has his promises on the wall of his office and he checks them off one by one. It doesn't matter if its popular or even if anybody cares about it anymore. He ticks the box. Gotta give him credit for that my friend.


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[wufan]

I would argue that the party holding enlightenment back, is the same party who rallied around a tradition-centric campaign slogan "Make America Great Again". I would argue the party fighting most for individual liberties and rights is the Democratic party. You didn't hear much pushback from the DACA & Title VII SCOTUS cases from Republicans because they secretly know that both of those issues are issues they were on the wrong side of.

The western world was built on a history of colonization and slave labor exploitation. While I don't agree with the tactics that the marxists are taking, the glorification of the western world is at the heart of the actions you are seeing happen in some of the more liberal places around the country. Throughout history, statues are built, and statues are torn down. Been going on for 1000s of years. In 200 years the people who think they are on the moral high ground on either side will probably be vilified for something.

And here, we disagree. The western world inherited slavery as the rest of the world had done this for 1000s of years. Many parts of the world continue it today. The western world rightfully ended slavery through blood shed, oppression, and forgiveness. America isn’t perfect, far from it, but we instituted the ideas of great men, and through those ideas we have moved closer to our values of equality for all men. Do not destroy the institutions that have brought us so far because utopia is still a distant dream.

Today’s left wants to give POC a separate space. A segregated space. Today’s left wants to deny great men because of their flaws rather than admit their own flaws as mediocre men. Today’s left wishes to rule by mob rather than by equality. I will not stand for that.

[C0|dB|00ded]

This isn't going to change many peoples mind, but I believe Biden is the most ideologically conservative democrat to win the nomination since Bill Clinton.

Holding your nose while he tries to undermine the rule of law in this country is something else. Trump truly doesn't care about the people he claims to care about. Trump is not a practicing Christian, and certainly doesn't live with any sort of christian values. He only cares about power and public adoration. The right wing media has convinced people that democrats want to destroy the country and are coming for you and your family.

That may very well be true, but Joe Biden is a Manchurian Candidate. He will not be running the country if he is elected. Hell, he might not even be president for one full term. You want to talk about a legit 25th Amendment risk... that's Joe Biden. He'd probably qualify for a nursing home right now. So whomever his eventual running mate might be, that will be your likely next president.

So the Dims try to counter Trump with a "moderate" Democrat. A good strategy. But shortly after his inauguration the reigns will be handed over - either figuratively or literally.


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[wsushox1]

That may very well be true, but Joe Biden is a Manchurian Candidate. He will not be running the country if he is elected. Hell, he might not even be president for one full term. You want to talk about a legit 25th Amendment risk... that's Joe Biden. He'd probably qualify for a nursing home right now. So whomever his eventual running mate might be, that will be your likely next president.

So the Dims try to counter Trump with a "moderate" Democrat. A good strategy. But shortly after his inauguration the reigns will be handed over - either figuratively or literally.


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That all may very well be true. What if that person is Kamala Harris who was notoriously tough on crime in california and pissed all the liberals out there off because of it?

[wufan]

That all may very well be true. What if that person is Kamala Harris who was notoriously tough on crime in california and pissed all the liberals out there off because of it?

As soon as her and Biden condemn the neomarxist fascist rioters I will start listening to their ideas.

[C0|dB|00ded]

That all may very well be true. What if that person is Kamala Harris who was notoriously tough on crime in california and pissed all the liberals out there off because of it?

Kamala is kinda hot... I will admit.



But she's got a nastiness to her that Hillary had.

I'll make a deal though since the Libs are about to burn down the cities. If you could guarantee me that the Left, consisting of the Marxists, Communists, Socialists, Anarchists, and any other offending 'ist could be eradicated before November, 7th, I promise I won't leave the country if Trump loses and I will be politically peaceful on Shockernet.

All my guns will be worth 10x and we'll hold majorities in the House and Senate. I could live with that. I think Trump has done enough with the bench to buy us a couple more years.


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